Xzibit23

This will be an unpopular thread and will upset some posters, the thread critcisizing the offensive playcalling got me thinking and it seems like Brady and Bellichick are teflon...they get all the glory, but never the blame. When things go wrong, it has to fall on someone else's shoulders...the WRs, the OL, the CBs, the LBs, the rest of the coaching staff, etc...The reality is Brady didnt have a good superbowl. Was he being presurred mercilessly?? Yes. But he also was Bledsoesque in being slow at some reads, or at least not as fast as he normally is. Also, he was off and missed a couple of wide open receivers, sometimes badly. Of course the Giants insane pass rush and his ankle played a big part, but that explains Brady's performance, but doesnt excuse it...there is a difference.

As for Bellichick, he is supposed to be some defensive guru. So when the defense fails in the last drive, its the players not making the plays...but when the defense would make huge stands and shutdown Manning in '03 and '04 it was Bellichicks scheming?? The guys who I believe really get dismissed in all this are the defensive players, all their great efforts are credited to Bellichick, and all big wins where they carried the team, not the offense, are somehow credited to Brady anyway. Dont get me wrong, we're talking about the best coach and QB in the game...and to be fair I think I did see a thread devoted to BB taking some blame for the recent playoffs losses. But with all these threads blaming everyone from the OL to the defense to Moss to McDaniels, the blame needs to be spread around to the guys who get all the glory as well. I know this is a touchy subject lol, but just callin a spade a spade fellas.

signbabybrady

I think those two have gotten their share of the blame for the SB. Especially BB.

Brady has gotten a little more of a pass because of his injury. Most people realize the lack of offensive production was why they lost and Brady has to share that blame.

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BelichickFan

I can't comment on Brady much because I haven't watched the game since seeing it live so it's tough to say.

Belichick and his D - well there's the reality that we would have won the last two SB had the defense been able to stop a drive each time. However there's also the reality that there's players that need to make plays too. If the $10M man cathches the INT, we win. If we get the sack on the play to Tyree it's 4th and 17. If that ball is incomplete it's 4th and 10. That drive was more about players not making plays than not being in position to make plays.

jeffd

Brady wasn't perfect. I wouldn't say he played poorly.

BB got outcoached badly but on Off, not Def. If you only give up 17 pts you should win. Not to mention on the last drive your teams best corner (Samuel) has a shot at a tough INT and misses. Then your best Safety (Harrison) drops an easy INT as well as Meriweather. Poor tackling on the pass rush and a 1 in 1 million play by the offense. Can't blame the last drive on the coaches.

Watson's IQ

It was obviously not his best game, we all know that. It's not that they're immune from criticism, but BB and Brady (and Kraft, for that matter) have done so much for this franchise that they have earned a lifetime pass from me. Even if I don't agree with every single decision, I still trust them 100% with the direction of each individual game and the franchise in general. They've earned that.

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patsox23

This is a lame thread - among a sea of the same - not because we don't think Brady and BB should shoulder a good part of the blame, but because they DO, and they HAVE. Dozens of us have said that Brady and Belichick played prominent roles in that loss.

Good God, you people. Please, PLEASE - get thee to KFFL.

ALP

fine thread...one thing

the OL and brady both deserve blame for the offense

the defense however, the scheme and all, allowed the players to make THREE picks to put the game away
it was one sack from putting the game away by the DL...
it was one pass deflected by rodney...

the scheme BB created put our players in AMAZING positions to make FIVE plays to finish the game, our players did not step up to make the plays...that is NOT bb's fault, and hence he does not deserve any blame for how the defense worked...maybe for the offense, but not the defense, thats all on the players

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There's nothing "fine" about this thread.

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bitsygirl

I don't care who you blame on the SB loss,(BB or TB) but I, for one will never get over it!! I still don't know what happened??

jcdavey

your D technically doesn't really deserve any blame aside from asante screwing up on the final drive

you held the giants to 17 points which is an accomplishment seeing as they scored 30+ on NE the last time

it's just the giants D had a much bigger accomplishment that day.

if anyone's to blame it's the lack of change of playcalling going into the 2nd half (and even earlier) to account for the passrush

NE just looked like a team , in the sb, till their next to final drive, who had the mindset that they could go deep anytime they wanted, and they weren't going to abandon that thought process, and adjust to the giants front 7