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Old 02-29-2008, 10:59 AM   #11
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I dont know what Shepard's contract length is but if its at least 2 years and he wants to be a winner that seems like a doable trade if Gholston isnt there. With the 17th I say take a OL, I like Albert from VA who can play both OL postions.
I think we pick up Haggans from Pitts at OLB, and we sign Law. Thomas/Bruschi/Seau/newbie platoon at ILB. And as far as Jason Taylor is concerned THE TUNA isnt Al Davis,lol. Taylor would have to request it, and take a pay cut. I have no problem trading those picks for him because the numbers tell me you will get 1 guy who plays 3-5 years as a average starter and maybe a ST backup with the picks. A guy like Taylor is mobile, he can play various positions and I dont worry about his age. He has 2-3 good years left in him(like Randy). I would rather have him for 2-3 years then have a average guy for 5. Especially if they cost me the same $$.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:03 AM   #12
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thats great and all...except that you dont adress our need at ILB
Taylor plays the rush LB like he did a lot for Saban, that moves Thomas back inside.

Regarding overpaying, I did that intentionally; I wanted a scenario showing how easily we could improve from what was on the field from the SB.
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Jason Taylor is older and more expensive than Colvin. Trading away two cheaper picks who could reasonably fill in is a bad idea. We could have two quality players for significantly less than Taylor. Remember, this year's draft is considered markedly deeper than last year's.

Samuel is marginally better than Sheppard. I don't have an issue with this part. But why use #17 on a CB who would be paid the same as Gay when we already have a player who is quality (though not a star), who already knows the defense
Because Gay is a free agent, will probably be overpaid by some team like the Jets, is nothing more than an average nickelback, and will never be a starter for this team.

The seventeenth pick in the draft would be used to select a starter quality cornerback for five years at a reasonable salary. Upgrade.

I'd still rather see a pass rusher in the first round, though.
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I think it sounds like a logical trade from the Patriots side but I don't know why the Eagles would go for it. Just going by the draft value charts, it's saying that Sheppard is only worth a high 2nd round pick. If I'm the Eagles I'm not going for that, considering I've drafted the guy in the 1st round, and he's proven to be worth that considering 2 All-Pro selections at the start of his career. Personally I'm someone who thinks the draft value chart is outdated as well, where the gap between the #7 and #17 pick is smaller than the chart indicates due to the salary cap ramifications. I also don't see a position of immediate need that the Eagles would want to move up high in the draft, as their main need is a top receiver, and there are none projected to be worth that high a pick, especially in such a deep class at the position.
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I think it sounds like a logical trade from the Patriots side but I don't know why the Eagles would go for it. Just going by the draft value charts, it's saying that Sheppard is only worth a high 2nd round pick.
Given that he wants a new contract I think that's what he's worth. There's some nice pass rushers in this draft, a guy like Gholston would look great in Johnson's defense.
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Argue the exact values of the trade all you like, I think they're close enough to be reasonable.

Right now we're basically down Moss, Colvin, Samuel. Gay is a JAG to me.

Re-Sign Moss. The offense is done.

Trade #7 to Philly for Sheppard and #17. Samuel is replaced.
Draft a CB at #17, that's a good spot for CB this year. Gay is replaced.
Trade our #2 and #3 to Miami for Jason Taylor. Colvin is replaced.

Done.
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Argue the exact values of the trade all you like, I think they're close enough to be reasonable.

Right now we're basically down Moss, Colvin, Samuel. Gay is a JAG to me.

Re-Sign Moss. The offense is done.

Trade #7 to Philly for Sheppard and #17. Samuel is replaced.
Draft a CB at #17, that's a good spot for CB this year. Gay is replaced.
Trade our #2 and #3 to Miami for Jason Taylor. Colvin is replaced.

Done.
Ugh.

No thanks to Jason Taylor. And who starts at ILB under this plan?
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A 2nd and 3rd for Taylor? That is a spectacular trade - for Miami. Sorry, but Taylor is not a guy I am ready to give up two high picks for at this point in his career.
Which 3rd are we talking about? If its 63 & 95, you have to do that.
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And who starts at ILB under this plan?
Thomas is one. Bruschi part time with another guy either Seau of a FA signee.
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Thomas is one. Bruschi part time with another guy either Seau of a FA signee.
No thanks. I'd think we'd be better off targetting Hobson/Pace and keeping Thomas outside, where he's more effective. That way we get younger at a key position and don't waste draft picks on a guy who's on the decline.
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