Why i think Asante is gone - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Early Roster Projection
Ryan's Journey Started Early
POST DRAFT PODCAST

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > PatsFans.com Forums > PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-18-2008, 09:32 AM   #1
ALP
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
ALP's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,151
Default Why i think Asante is gone

1. our cap space this year is limited, where last yr we had plenty, and did not sign asante to a long term deal

2. b/c our defensive scheme right now focuses more on average cb's that can do an effective job, we do not need outstanding cb's in our defensive schemes

3. b/c our cb's do not switch sides, our scheme allows for them to be considered pretty much equal in value...(this is due to the fact that opposing offenses can line up their number one guy agasint hobbs instead of asante all game long)

4. b/c asante is really not worth that much money, and the pats dont spend money like crazy...

5. b/c i think pretty much any new cb can do asante's job right away, with little value being lost at the position

6. b/c our scheme depends on QB pressure, not wr coverage, and hence our defense has lacked b/c of poor qb pressure

well, those are the reasons, what do you guys think?
__________________
Last time I lived in New England the Pats became a Dynasty

Then I moved away and they haven't won since

...now I'm moving back, and a Lombardi I predict
ALP is offline  
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 02-18-2008, 09:39 AM   #2
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 
chrisfx811's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 829
Default Re: Why i think Asante is gone

Quote:
Originally Posted by ALP View Post
1. our cap space this year is limited, where last yr we had plenty, and did not sign asante to a long term deal
I agree, and this one is tied to #4

2. b/c our defensive scheme right now focuses more on average cb's that can do an effective job, we do not need outstanding cb's in our defensive schemes
I think it's more a matter of, they cannot afford outstanding cb's based on how they've spent their money

3. b/c our cb's do not switch sides, our scheme allows for them to be considered pretty much equal in value...(this is due to the fact that opposing offenses can line up their number one guy agasint hobbs instead of asante all game long)
I assume it helps BB gameplan as to where the holes in the defense are going to be based on where his own team's weaknesses are, and what the other teams 'should' do to exploit them.

4. b/c asante is really not worth that much money, and the pats dont spend money like crazy...
Tied to #1, and I agree

5. b/c i think pretty much any new cb can do asante's job right away, with little value being lost at the position
I won't go that far, but Asante does have weaknesses that stick out, despite having good ball skills

6. b/c our scheme depends on QB pressure, not wr coverage, and hence our defense has lacked b/c of poor qb pressure
I felt that the only reason our team was #2 in the league in sacks was in large part due to the coverage. The Pats rarely overpowered lines with speed rushes. It seemed mainly to be blitzes, and coverage sacks.

well, those are the reasons, what do you guys think?
I wonder how much longer teams will pay out Nate Clements type money, before that trend starts regressing.
chrisfx811 is offline  
Old 02-18-2008, 09:41 AM   #3
Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
 
JoeSixPat's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,346
Default Re: Why i think Asante is gone

Another "I think Asante is gone" thread?

Perhaps someone can shake things up with a shorter "why I think the Patriots will give Asante the $100 million contract he is looking for" thread - but I doubt you'd find someone to start it.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by JoeSixPat; 02-18-2008 at 09:42 AM..
JoeSixPat is offline  
Old 02-18-2008, 09:49 AM   #4
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 
stevedogc's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 733
Default Re: Why i think Asante is gone

Becasue in his own words, he wants a "mega-deal". And he wont get that from the Pats. I think the Pats would give him a very good deal. But it seems that there are players out there who use their paychecks as a dtermining factor as to the type of player they are, and not just performance on the field. And I think Samuel falls in that category.
stevedogc is offline  
Old 02-18-2008, 10:01 AM   #5
ALP
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
ALP's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,151
Default Re: Why i think Asante is gone

ok, so most of us are of the same opinion...good...

now, do you gusy believe there is someone a CB in the draft better or similar to Asante?

i believe the pats with ehtier current scheme are looking more for a coverage CB, rather then a man on man cb like cromartie....

also i believe the pats really need to start switching their corners
__________________
Last time I lived in New England the Pats became a Dynasty

Then I moved away and they haven't won since

...now I'm moving back, and a Lombardi I predict
ALP is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Sponsored Links



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC