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Old 07-26-2011, 06:15 AM   #1
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could somebody plz break it down for myself and others. How much do the JETS and other teams benefit?


1. PATS get #1 taken from Roger
2. Roger saves dead Cap space by saving 5.9 million from gholston deal I think the total $$$ saved is 8.6




I use tp think Roger was fair, but clearly he wants to see his team win in playoffs and make it to the SB, which is clear favoritism. Jets cut players in 2010 who would count against the cap in 2011-2012. Sounds fishy.


We had a far better draft and our QB is actually a Franchise QB. One could argue that our 3rd stringer Ryan Mallet is more of a Franchise QB than Mark S. Ironic Mallett gets to learn from the best
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Old 07-26-2011, 08:10 AM   #2
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Where did you read this? I haven't seen anything about it.
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Where did you read this? I haven't seen anything about it.
There some stuff about it on the Jets' boards. They're quoting something that was agreed upon between the players and owners. One of them posts a link, but you have to be a member to see the link (and have so many posts). Plus they're referencing some Jets blogs. I don't know how credible any of it is. But if it's true, then it was agreed upon between the NFLPA and NFL--not just the crafty work of a nefarious commissioner.

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It seems to benefit a limited number of teams (maybe 10 or so) possibly including the Raiders (Nnamdi and a few others whose deals voided), as well as the JETS who cut players after the season but before the CBA expired who had dead cap hits that normally could have crippled a cap. But then, we can't have a crippled cap with the league committed to spend 99% in cash, I guess...

The slimy feel of the deal is there were likely lots of other teams who will be cutting guys this week they would likely have parted with months ago had they known there would be this exception to the rule...only all along the league had told teams the cap would be back and the rules would remain and the uncapped year was not an opportunity to dump bad deals. Guess the rationale changed to the old deal expired and the new deal is a new deal... Not sure if this means all remaining dead cap ended with it or just players cut in the previous year. We didn't have much dead cap to begin with.
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TBC, Kaczur, and Sanders would all be gone and the Pats would be sitting with 17 mil plus of real cap room along with the 6.5 of possible cap reduction shenanigans. This is complete horse****. All this praise to Kraft for making the deal happen, he completely screwed his own team in the end, what an utter fool.
Why couldn't they just have had a 48 hr window after the lockout for all teams. MoLR is right though, even though this hasn't been reported its financially impossible for NFL teams to spend 99% real money across the league without helping these teams cheat. I don't know why the players union didn't encourage a window for players getting released and not having the "real money" of bonus' carry over to the cap, it would only further benefit players by getting them more straight cash from getting another deal with a signing bonus.
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TBC, Kaczur, and Sanders would all be gone and the Pats would be sitting with 17 mil plus of real cap room along with the 6.5 of possible cap reduction shenanigans. This is complete horse****. All this praise to Kraft for making the deal happen, he completely screwed his own team in the end, what an utter fool.
Why couldn't they just have had a 48 hr window after the lockout for all teams. MoLR is right though, even though this hasn't been reported its financially impossible for NFL teams to spend 99% real money across the league without helping these teams cheat. I don't know why the players union didn't encourage a window for players getting released and not having the "real money" of bonus' carry over to the cap, it would only further benefit players by getting them more straight cash from getting another deal with a signing bonus.
Because this wasn't a deal just to help the players. It was a redistribution of cap savings wealth to the favored political class...e.g. the commissioner's Jets.

So, just how did the Jets KNOW to cut those players early when they did?
Another "leak" from Goodell's office, like with Spygate?
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TBC, Kaczur, and Sanders would all be gone and the Pats would be sitting with 17 mil plus of real cap room along with the 6.5 of possible cap reduction shenanigans. This is complete horse****. All this praise to Kraft for making the deal happen, he completely screwed his own team in the end, what an utter fool. Why couldn't they just have had a 48 hr window after the lockout for all teams. MoLR is right though, even though this hasn't been reported its financially impossible for NFL teams to spend 99% real money across the league without helping these teams cheat. I don't know why the players union didn't encourage a window for players getting released and not having the "real money" of bonus' carry over to the cap, it would only further benefit players by getting them more straight cash from getting another deal with a signing bonus.
Kraft had no way of knowing last March whether this BS would make the final draft. And perhaps BB has no intention of cutting those guys. Like I said, we aren't in cap trouble and we only have a million or so in dead cap. Kraft likely went along with whatever the vocal minority needed to get for the good of getting a deal done. He's a consiliator. And he's nobody's fool. Kneejerk fans who rail against him are the utter fools at the end of the day.
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Who you callin a kneejerk fool?

The truth is the teams that sucked at drafting and signing players get to do more sucking.......

Lets hope they restructure Sanchez for another 7 years....
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and when will we extend GRONK and Hernandez??? This new 4yr n done FA crap is complete BS
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The truth is the teams that sucked at drafting and signing players get to do more sucking.......

Lets hope they restructure Sanchez for another 7 years....
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