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Re: CBA Approval Status
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Originally Posted by Deus Irae
We don't have the details but, according to most of the reports, the player percentage of the pie is dropping to between 46.5%-48% of the pie, when they'd previously been getting from about 50+% to 53%. My rounding was approximate, so that part could be off a bit, but the drop is significant.
From what I read they were getting just over %50 of the pie AFTER 1 billion (and ajustments) was taken off the top. Reports are they will now be getting around %48 of the entire pie. That percentage can be ajusted down to %46.5 over the years (Don't remember how or why). But over all they made out about the same in this regard I believe.
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From what I read they were getting just over %50 of the pie AFTER 1 billion (and ajustments) was taken off the top. Reports are they will now be getting around %48 of the entire pie. That percentage can be ajusted down to %46.5 over the years (Don't remember how or why). But over all they made out about the same in this regard I believe.
In 2006, they got 52.7%. In 2009, they got 50.6%. They're now going to be getting between 46.5% and 48%. That's a big difference. Of course, we don't know if additional revenues were added, or if some were removed, so we're just taking best guesses at this point.
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NFC executive in personnel just said his club has been told that training-camp rosters will be expanded from 80 to 90 players. #packers
FalconsJAdams-Owners are taking a 10 minute break. NFL Network said a vote is expected in next 30 minutes.
Got this off another forum from a Falcons fan, quote is obviously from Twitter.
Yep..and then it will be the players holding up the ball of wax.....
Vote on recertification and file that paperwork you dummies...
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Last edited by BlueThunder; 07-21-2011 at 04:33 PM..
MikeSilver Michael Silver
Ok, here's where we are on labor. Both sides ready to approve settlement with conditions, but there's still a significant staredown...
MikeSilver Michael Silver
...Players say nfl lawyer bob batterman wants them to agree to adhere to terms of 2006 cba on non-compensation issues...
MikeSilver Michael Silver
...Players want to recertify and THEN negotiate new terms...
MikeSilver Michael Silver
Issues in play include: Discipline-grievance process, drug testing/substance abuse, disability bens, pensions, work rules, health & safety
MikeSilver Michael Silver
Ok, here's where we are on labor. Both sides ready to approve settlement with conditions, but there's still a significant staredown...
MikeSilver Michael Silver
...Players say nfl lawyer bob batterman wants them to agree to adhere to terms of 2006 cba on non-compensation issues...
MikeSilver Michael Silver
...Players want to recertify and THEN negotiate new terms...
MikeSilver Michael Silver
Issues in play include: Discipline-grievance process, drug testing/substance abuse, disability bens, pensions, work rules, health & safety
That is MASSIVE.
Who knows if it is accurate.
If so, the players are saying they would like to re-open terms before agreeing.
If that is accurate, either they cave, or this lock-out is not as close as we have been lead to believe.
Multiple sources are saying the owners are voting on this currently.
The players opted not to vote yesterday, and may not approve today.
Many folks threw out the date of July 15 as the deadline to avoid missing games. As we inch past that, the first week of preseason games get trickier to schedule. And then the revenue picture changes - and then the cap.
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Yes, as others have pointed out, the definition of the pie has changed.
It used to not include the ice cream. Now it includes ice cream and coffee.
That is, there was a negotiated split in the 50% range of a net pie after fees were removed for investments and so forth. The new pie includes the a larger definition of revenues, no removal for investments, but a lower percentage.
Ignore all that and consider the total salary cap.
It's gone down a bit.
Thus, the players are getting a bit less money.
I recall that the 2009 cap was $127mm. The 2011 cap is supposed to be $120mm. There may be more in benefits - you probably need to consider both cap and benefits. But it looks like less money to the players, which is what the owners wanted.
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