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Isn't it nice to get back to fundamental facts? The young Pats were indeed in the middle pack in the league in sacks, while playing a two raw starters at CB, and two raw initial starters at OLB. The young, talented, speed led the league in big play INTs, which is what you want.
Just letting Cunningham and Ninkovitch play as second year starters, the OLBs will be better. Simply getting Wilhite back, more importantly, Bodden back, playing McCourty as a sophomore, and letting first year UDFA CB Arrington, and third year CB Butler play, not to mention a second year for first year Chung, should improve the secondary.
BB is no fool. He sees what he has and what is developing in practice, that we fans haven't seen, yet.
Development, deshmelopment. We need guys who are stars right out of the gate, like Vrabel and Bruschi.
__________________ "They have one objective," said Washington cornerback Shawn Springs. "They whoop people's [backsides]. If you understand that, it answers all your questions. They might not lose [this year]."
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I would expect a significant improvement if there is a normal amount of time in spring training...
27/31/31
Pretty much can't go anywhere but up.
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According to football outsiders, they were last in the league in pass defeats.
What the hell is a Pass Defeat? I've heard of Passes Defensed. And that is when a defender knocks down a pass. Many of which should be done by the DBs.
What the hell is a Pass Defeat? I've heard of Passes Defensed. And that is when a defender knocks down a pass. Many of which should be done by the DBs.
From FO:
Remember that Pass Defeats come in four different flavors:
turnovers
sacks
tackles behind the line on short passes
tackles or passes defensed that prevent a third-down conversion
GB is ranked 1st by them.
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Three out of Four. Back-to-back.
No, it really is pathetic. Having a bunch of sacks, being in the middle of the pack, more sacks after Nov, blah, blah, blah. This defense is based off of pressure coming from the edge, without it the defense gets exposed. The interior line is made up of big, heavy guys. They may get some sacks, but the cannot chase the QB down and they cannot dictate the game.
Without a pass rusher applying outside pressure the DBs get exposed, the linebackers have to be used as pass defenders and get run on in passing situations and we live with people like TBC and Ninkovich. Bith of them are second stringers, at best.
The reason why people are so happy with Eric Moore is because everybody else sucks. It is the off season, when grasping at straws is what happens when the team doesn't draft a pass rusher.
Well, there is your first mistake. This defense is NOT based off of pressure coming from the edge. This defense is based on being able to bring pressure from any of the 4 LB positions. That's what made it so good in 2003 and 2004. They have been improving that, slowly but surely. The problem last year was that, after Ty Warren went down, only WILFORK was consistently able to draw double and triple teams. Unfortunately, this left o-line and TEs to pick up the rushing LB.
It's plainly clear to me that you do not understand how the front 7 are supposed to function. You seem to be thinking of them in terms of a 4-3 system and they aren't.
Remember that Pass Defeats come in four different flavors:
turnovers
sacks
tackles behind the line on short passes
tackles or passes defensed that prevent a third-down conversion
GB is ranked 1st by them.
So it's a made up stat that has no bearing on anything. I appreciate the info.
Well, there is your first mistake. This defense is NOT based off of pressure coming from the edge. This defense is based on being able to bring pressure from any of the 4 LB positions. That's what made it so good in 2003 and 2004. They have been improving that, slowly but surely. The problem last year was that, after Ty Warren went down, only WILFORK was consistently able to draw double and triple teams. Unfortunately, this left o-line and TEs to pick up the rushing LB.
It's plainly clear to me that you do not understand how the front 7 are supposed to function. You seem to be thinking of them in terms of a 4-3 system and they aren't.
Let me repost this. The Patriots do not blitz their inside linebackers very often, they either fill the gaps or drop back in coverage. That leaves the OLBs to apply pressure.
Belichick's defense is based off of a stud nose tackle. That is where it starts, withoput one it doesn't work. The nose is responsible for forcing a double team, clogging up the middle, forcing the running back to go wide. That leaves the two ends to force the offensive line into the backfield and not allowing the running back to get around the edge. The middle libebackers are responsible for filling the holes that are created when the ends push the offensive line into the backfield. That is the reason why the ILB in the Belichick system is so active, and why Mayo got so many tackles last year. That leaves the two outside linebackers to aply pressure on the passer and applying back side pressure on the running back who has been forced wide. Sometimes they run stunts, but the Pats don't run a lot of them. Sometimes they blitz inside guys, or a DB, but the OLB is responsible for pass rush in passing situations and storming the backfield on running plays. If there is no pressure from the edge then you are relying on your ends for that pressure, and football is stacked against that happening. Tackles and guards are way too good in this league to get beaten consistently, especially by defensive ends in a 3/4 defense. You need that quick powerful guy coming off of the edge for the defense to really work well.
That is why Belichick has had such a hard time replacing McGinnist, finding that 6'6", 275 Lb OLB who can run a 4.5 is almost impossible drafting where the Pats usually draft and that is why I am so upset that the Pats didn't get their guy this year. They had the draft picks and the trading partners to go get one, and they took an offensive lineman who is a project instead.
That is why Belichick has had such a hard time replacing McGinnist, finding that 6'6", 275 Lb OLB who can run a 4.5 is almost impossible drafting where the Pats usually draft and that is why I am so upset that the Pats didn't get their guy this year. They had the draft picks and the trading partners to go get one, and they took an offensive lineman who is a project instead.
The best candidate went at #7. That's 17+33 trade range. The other one supposedly had a medical red flag on the Pats' board but still went at #14. There weren't any other good OLB candidates.
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