roman_maroney

Some of us who spent a lot of time at Sullivan during the 80's, 90's and early part of this century have said the crowd has lost its edge (not in all cases, last week was off the hook, but it takes an afc championship game to get everyone standing on 3rd down). Be it the cost, the fact that half of the people show up with muffy from the country club because they landed the big account, or the complacency brought by winning, there has been a noticable change in the aura and edge of the crowd at home games. I attended the browns game this year, and was dumbfounded. Now, some agree, some disagree. Mike Vrabel tells it like it is....


“We were excited to go out on the field and see everybody – 15,000 or 20,000 – and those people were excited. We need to get those people at the games. Those are the type of fans that we need to get back into our stadium. I think that they deserve to experience this just as much as the people who can afford to come out here and to buy our season tickets. Those are the people who I think sometimes get left out with the cost of this game, to watch it, to travel. Those are the ones I'd like to see experience this."


I thought it was interesting that he said "*back* at the games"

thoughts? agree? disagree?

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roman_maroney

My fault. please disregard!

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shmessy

Agree. But the blame isn't just on Muffy and family.

The tailgating experience is fabulous. Perhaps too fabulous. The regular Joes and Josephines now tailgate like nothing before in the NE Harness Raceway Parking Lot in the 70's-90's. Like Brady saying about the SB that too many players blow their steam before the game, so it is true of the complex and intricate tailgating experience by the fans at Gillette.

So much is consumed, drunk and put forth, it's like the goddam Food Network out there. I'm not saying it's not great, fun and I enjoy being a part of that. Just that the fans aren't exactly like starving lions by game time.

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Rob0729

It is no coincidence that the crowd noise dwindled dramatically when we switched stadiums. Sorry, but there is little we can do about the crowd because two of the biggest problem is where the 200 section and the first part of the 300 section used to be in the old stadium is made up of club seats and luxary boxes and the stands (most particularly the 300 section) are a lot farther away from the field than in Foxboro stadium.

The Krafts built one of the best stadiums in the league. One thing they either didn't account for or just were willing to sacrifice, was how the design was going to affect the crowd noise. The Pats aren't the only team that has sacrificed crowd noise in new state of the art stadiums. The old 3 mile high stadium used to literally shake with crowd noise, but the new stadium suffers from the same problems.

I am a season ticket holder and my section cheers just as loud as my section in the old stadium. The problem is the wine and cheese crowd in the club seats seem to be more interested in watching the game behind glass the second it gets cold than trying to create crowd noise.

FrontSeven

Overeating will dull you out. Pouring booze into a full stomach ain't gonna help.

The only time a lion won't attack a little pig is when the lion is stuffed, can't move, and has no motivation. That tells you one thing about overeating: It can take away the killer-instinct of a dominant predator in the wild.

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oldskool138

Yeah, I just linked to that one. It's the second post on this thread.

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PatsWickedPissah

Agreed about the stadium but the crowd in 110 never makes much noise. Most seats are corporate with fans arriving after the 1st QTR and never cheering the D.

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Marko

It's a little bit confusing what he's talking about is it Gillette or is he talking about the superbowl! Even at the old stadium there were a bunch of season ticket holders who were old foagies and felt like they were entititled because they had those seats for years, that wanted everyone to sit in front of them etc. I was @Gillette on the day it opened and it was incredibly loud, but it has never reached that level again. There is something to be said about being the frontrunner that doesn't get the crowd pumped. Look at all the away games we played the other crowds were super pumped because they wanted to beat number one, and they got to see the Patriots game.