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Old 05-23-2011, 04:01 PM   #1
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There is a contingent of fans who delight in degrading Bob Kraft and express their opinions that he and the Patriots are cheap.

They can't seem to find any basis for that other than that they sometimes allow FA to walk, just like other clubs do.

But now I have to point out that every other Team in the AFCE has cut their salaries of the the "little people" and assistant coaches, during the lockout. Many other Teams in the league, have done likewise.

Only Kraft's Patriots in the AFCE have not, as of yet. I don't know whether they will eventually do so, but they have at least continued to delay doing so.
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Old 05-23-2011, 04:22 PM   #2
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Kraft was a spendthrift before BB. The overly generous contracts to Bledsoe, Law, Milloy, Rucci, Max Lane. I might be wrong on particulars, but overpaying caused the team to be voted the least likely to win in the future back in 2000-2001.
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The "Kraft is cheap" argument regarding how he pays player has long since been resolved... one would have to assign the blame to his GM anyway - and we know he looks at player pay from a value standpoint rather than being "generous" or "cheap".

From a business operation standpoint Kraft is a smart and savvy businessman. He's not going to waste money on spending when he doesn't need to do so. There's a number of complex factors that Kraft would consider within any of his businesses.

Maintaining pay for his football front office and cutting the front office budget of his Soccer team is an apples and oranges comparison with different factors relevant to each business.
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Kraft laid off all or almost all of the New England Revolution ticket and support staff about two years ago; he's already covered himself for the "work stoppage" by trimming the Revolution to an almost amateur level operation...

If you don't believe me, look it up on the Revs and MLS forums...
If I looked it up, then I would have to care about soccer.
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I like that Stallions patch - would you believe I actually have a St. Louis Stallions hat???? Gotta be a rarity....
There's some who subscribe to a revisionist history that the team was never in any danger of moving to St. Louis and refuse to give Bledsoe, Parcells and Kraft the credit each of them is due in creating a very different reality for New England sports fans.

It seemed to me a little reminder of that was in order.

If you have some proof of when your hat was created it could indeed be worth something.
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He is a hard nosed negotiator and business man. (that's not cheap, but its not someone you trust either).

lets not forget the whole Hartford head fake, in negotiating for the stadium.....

he is fully behind this lockout to get "a really good deal" for the owners.

i'd say he is greedy, not cheap. but thats me.
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He is a hard nosed negotiator and business man. (that's not cheap, but its not someone you trust either).

lets not forget the whole Hartford head fake, in negotiating for the stadium.....

he is fully behind this lockout to get "a really good deal" for the owners.

i'd say he is greedy, not cheap. but thats me.
So, getting a business deal that will enable the league, as a whole, to continue to function and make money without his franchise having to carry other franchises makes him greedy?? Huh.. learn something new every day...
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He is a hard nosed negotiator and business man. (that's not cheap, but its not someone you trust either).

lets not forget the whole Hartford head fake, in negotiating for the stadium.....

he is fully behind this lockout to get "a really good deal" for the owners.

i'd say he is greedy, not cheap. but thats me.
Hartford head fake, eh? Do you have any idea how much a a jerk Finneran was during that entire fiasco. That prick made it almost impossible to build a stadium in MA. Until you understand that situation, you'd be better off not talking about it.

Bob Kraft went on record saying it will be "criminal" if no deal is worked out in time for the season.
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For the life of me, I don't know how anyone could accuse Bobby of being cheap.

Take for example the first home game this past season. Sunday morning, we received our customary game-day wakeup call from none other Mr. Toughness, Steve Grogan. He provided us with the weather report, an overview of the day's gameplan, and a couple of vino recommendations for the ride into the stadium. Well done Stevo.

As we approached the Foxborough town line, the limo GPS flashed our rerouting instuctions that allowed us to bypass the masses and advance to the Suites entrance unhindered. Alexander, our Suite Concierge, escorted us to the pregame brunch featuring Icelandic jumbo prawns, Havenshire mussels, and a marvelous assortment of Cote de Basque cheeses...all flown in from Europe that morning. Flights of lighter white wines washed down this shellfish medley perfectly.

As always, we like to get down on the field for kickoff. Alexander expertly guided us to the VIP elevator that descended to field level where he whisked us past the burly guards and onto the sidelines. The scene was quite chaotic and I had difficulty discerning which team we were playing.

Back to our suites, we were ready to relax for the afternoon. The gals were quite smitten with a jovial sparkling white wine from Sonoma while the men were eagerly sampling lagers from just south of Ingusdorf. The food service arrived on time and I have to say we made the correct call....organic tapas' infused with spices from the southern Mediterranean regions ....perfect. Now some might say that we confused the pallet by blending foods and drink from so many regions...but I say hogwash....this is football.

Jonathan K swung by the suite, and as usual, the conversation veered offcourse and back to the same verbal jousting we always have..."Could the Trinity Squash team win another national championship?"

More to follow....Muffy needs to be realigned....can't keep her waiting
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I agree with the title of the thread, but to be fair the Patriots couldn't cut staff even if they wanted to. For the past half dozen years at least, the Patriots have had the leanest staff in the entire league. We have fewer assistants and coaches than anyone else. We can do this because Belichick does 10 different things at once.
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