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Old 01-24-2008, 09:01 AM   #1
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So, the Jags and Bolts decided to clamp down on Moss. How does Josh get Randy favorable matches vs Giants ? Outside of the 65yd bomb, they too held Randy in check (35 yds rest of the game)

Not sure how athletic the Giants secondary is to shutdown Moss, and make Brady goto Welker, Stall and others.

The strategy being employed by opposing D is to make the Pats work to get the TD's, thus shorten the game and score. So, the key in the SB is to jump on the Giants early. Does that mean play action to get Moss open ?
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:07 AM   #2
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So, the Jags and Bolts decided to clamp down on Moss. How does Josh get Randy favorable matches vs Giants ? Outside of the 65yd bomb, they too held Randy in check (35 yds rest of the game)

Not sure how athletic the Giants secondary is to shutdown Moss, and make Brady goto Welker, Stall and others.

The strategy being employed by opposing D is to make the Pats work to get the TD's, thus shorten the game and score. So, the key in the SB is to jump on the Giants early. Does that mean play action to get Moss open ?
They might be happy to let RM draw the additional attention and just take advantage of any lapses in coverage. It'll be a lot more difficult to contain the Pats in perfect game conditions.
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I'd like them to find more ways to get Moss involved.
For example there was that one play against the Chargers where they let Moss run it on a trick play and he gained like 20 yards or so.
I'd like Moss to get involved early just to get him on the Giants' mind.
That will open up the rest of the offense imo.
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I can't get into the Giants' defense but Football Outsiders shows the Giants ranked #21 in the league against #1 WR so the opportunities should be there - if not they'll have to overplay him. The Giants rank well against #2 and lower WR but #31 against TE. The Jags and SD were ranked #13 and #7 vs. #1 WR.

Using more normal stats, the NYG pass defense is fairly leaky. They rank #18 in YPA. Interestingly, using this quality not quantity stat, the Patriots pass defense which has seemed quite leaky to us ranks #7. SD ranked #8.

Looking at yards allowed per pass, I don't have FO's complete list but Cromartie allowed 7.8 per pass which ranked 51st in the league - that is comparable to the NYG CB. Dockery ranks well, the others range from 7.2 to 9.3.

I guess the bottom line like always is - if we protect Brady there's all kinds of yards and scores waiting for us; the Giants' secondary is OK but not at all great.
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The Jags had Mathis and the Chargers had Jammer and Cromartie. The Giants have an old Sam Madison, a young gun in Aaron Ross, and a bunch of JAGs, plus two terrible safeties.
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I can see us going back to the few gadget plays we tried to use to get moss downfield against the cowboys. flea flicker anyone?
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Motion off the LOS?
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The Jags had Mathis and the Chargers had Jammer and Cromartie. The Giants have an old Sam Madison, a young gun in Aaron Ross, and a bunch of JAGs, plus two terrible safeties.
I'd also add play action. Especially now that we have a strong running game.

Going into last week the Patriots' offense ranked #1 (Football Outsiders stats) in yards gained per pass on play action. However we didn't run any as the Chargers' defense also ranked #1 vs. play action.

I don't have the numbers on the NYG but assuming they aren't right at the top with SD in play action defense, that's a strong weapon for us that was negated by last week's opponent.
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So, the Jags and Bolts decided to clamp down on Moss. How does Josh get Randy favorable matches vs Giants ? Outside of the 65yd bomb, they too held Randy in check (35 yds rest of the game)

Not sure how athletic the Giants secondary is to shutdown Moss, and make Brady goto Welker, Stall and others.

The strategy being employed by opposing D is to make the Pats work to get the TD's, thus shorten the game and score. So, the key in the SB is to jump on the Giants early. Does that mean play action to get Moss open ?
You know what? I think Moss can get open when he really WANTS to get open. It all depends on how many times a game he can bring himself to put out supreme effort. We've seen him beat double and even triple coverage (re., first Jets game) when he applies himself. He needs a couple triple espressos before the Super Bowl, maybe that would help.
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I think Moss will get open as he runs a difficult route at an angle... The Jags and Chargers corners are better than the Giants in covering him.

That being said, if he cuts and runs hard, he will get open and I'm sure BB is already charting plays for him where he can get wide open for the quick TD runs. If they double team him, he will draw coverage and Brady can throw to Donte or Wes or even Watson... There are just too many options for TB on offense and I think we'll see a lot of short plays, with a strike by Moss for the TD
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