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Does the final kickoff rule change help/hurt the Pats?
Note that the only significant part of the proposal that passed is that kickoffs now originate at the 35 rather than the 30. The two-man wedge remains in place, and the touchback on kickoffs remains at the 20.
So—do you think this helps the Pats or hurts the Pats?
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Re: Does the final kickoff rule change help/hurt the Pats?
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Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77
Note that the only significant part of the proposal that passed is that kickoffs now originate at the 35 rather than the 30. The two-man wedge remains in place, and the touchback on kickoffs remains at the 20.
So—do you think this helps the Pats or hurts the Pats?
Helps us--A LOT. Our coverage is atrocious, and our returns are not all that great. So it helps us against Jets,other teams with good return games.
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Re: Does the final kickoff rule change help/hurt the Pats?
I think it helps a lot. As a team with a very good offense but questionable defense, the Pats benefit from making the field longer, which is basically what this does.
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No big deal...only took me 3 defensive plays to be drafted before Tom Brady
Re: Does the final kickoff rule change help/hurt the Pats?
It hurts a bit. We've always paid extra attention to special teams. Brandon Tate was in the top half of the league in kick returns last season, Ghostowski gets touchbacks consistently; Hell, even Dan Connolly can be a threat on kick return. This takes away one more edge the Pats have had over opposition.
Re: Does the final kickoff rule change help/hurt the Pats?
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Originally Posted by memento
It hurts a bit. We've always paid extra attention to special teams. Brandon Tate was in the top half of the league in kick returns last season, Ghostowski gets touchbacks consistently; Hell, even Dan Connolly can be a threat on kick return. This takes away one more edge the Pats have had over opposition.
Doesnt this rule change actually help Gost since he is gaining 5 yards?
Re: Does the final kickoff rule change help/hurt the Pats?
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Originally Posted by neuronet
Helps us--A LOT. Our coverage is atrocious, and our returns are not all that great. So it helps us against Jets,other teams with good return games.
The coverage was pretty bad but come on, give Tate some credit. He finished 7th in average amongst returners with at least 10 returns, tied for 3rd for most return TDs, and provided the spark to start the second half against Miami.
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Originally Posted by Triumph
Doesnt this rule change actually help Gost since he is gaining 5 yards?
I think what he meant was that Gost doesn't need the extra 5 yards, so other kickers will benefit tremendously compared to him. Whether you kick it 3 yards in or 8 yards in makes no difference in terms of touchbacks. He'll probably pick up a few extra, but not as many as some kickers.
Re: Does the final kickoff rule change help/hurt the Pats?
I'll admit I haven't studied the stats relative to other teams, but it did seem last year that we gave up a lot of good field position on KO's and missed Gostkowski booming 'em deeply into or out of the End Zone.
So, while we clearly have some return weapons of our own, I'm going to say that, net net, it helps us a little.
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Re: Does the final kickoff rule change help/hurt the Pats?
Since they didn't give the opposing team an extra 5 yards on touchbacks, I think this rule helps the Pats slightly. With Gost's leg and the extra yards on his side of the ball, pretty much nobody will be able to mount a big return against the Pats. We won't be able to get many returns either, but except for a couple at the beginning of last year, we weren't seeing too many anyway.
Re: Does the final kickoff rule change help/hurt the Pats?
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Originally Posted by memento
It hurts a bit. We've always paid extra attention to special teams. Brandon Tate was in the top half of the league in kick returns last season, Ghostowski gets touchbacks consistently; Hell, even Dan Connolly can be a threat on kick return. This takes away one more edge the Pats have had over opposition.
(A) Even with the extra 5 yards, about half the teams in the league have kickers whose average KO in 2010 still wouldn't be in the EZ.
(B) OTOH, it'll be easier for teams to outkick their coverage if they do kick a returnable ball, because now they can only line up 5 yards behind the ball, and can't be in front of the ball before the ball is kicked. . . .
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