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Old 01-11-2008, 09:59 AM
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I think Daniel Graham is a better route runner than Ben Watson and a way better deep threat
Imagine Graham in this Offense with Moss and Welker.
we could've line him up in the 5 wide package making it impossible for teams to double Wes Welker in the slot.
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:02 AM
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Not sure about that, but I will tell you that I'm very, VERY underwhelmed with Watson. I think they should cut him after this year and go looking for someone else.
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Default Re: Did we keep the wrong Tight End

Watson has had a few drops but he's been very good this year overall. Sometimes I think I watch a different game than others, although Watson has had a few drops the past few games.

It's a moot point, though, Graham was a UFA, Watson wasn't.
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They kept the rookie contract, and while they valued Graham, they weren't going to give him the guaranteed money that he could get on the open market.
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Default Re: Did we keep the wrong Tight End

Letting Graham go was a salary cap decision allong with Daniel wanting to move closer to home.

I think people's memory is hazy. Graham was not a great pass catcher or route runner...a great blocker, yes, but not that great as an offensive threat.

Watson is cheaper but not as great of a blocker. He was supposed to make big strides in the pass-catching department this year but the light really hasn't come on yet.

The Pats do need to address the TE situation this off-season.
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I think Daniel Graham is a better route runner than Ben Watson and a way better deep threat
Imagine Graham in this Offense with Moss and Welker.
we could've line him up in the 5 wide package making it impossible for teams to double Wes Welker in the slot.
Expectations were so high for Watson, that most people see him as a disappointment. I think we'll still see some production out of him. Graham seems like he was a better blocker and locker-room type guy, but for the $, I don't think we could've afforded him and had the free-agent signings like we did. Besides, I think BB was hoping for a nice 1-2-3 punch with Watson, Brady, and Thomas, but injuries have decimated out tight-ends this year.
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:12 AM
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Your are right. You can't count on that Belichick/Pioli team to make the right decissions.

Graham had a Pro-Bowl year with Denver but he got cheated out of it.
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Consider this that watson was a receiving TE who over the years has developed his blocking work.Last year he was asked to do much.When you see tony or gates they have a awesome running game that ditacted that the top cb and top safety were on his case all game punishing him. we made his face double and triple coverages.

this year he is staying in to protect more with kyle down and does not play in the 4 wr set we run or 3 wr / i rb set we ran a tonne.

His contract is till 09 and i think with thomas coming along fine we might have 2 good blocking /receiving TE.
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Denver signed him for 5 years at $30 Million, and got 24 catches for 246 yards and 2 TDs out of it. This after they seemingly (and he definitely) expressed an interest in increasing his catching opportunities. Instead, eh was what he always was and always will be -- a fine blocking TE and nothing special in the passing game.
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Letting Graham go was a salary cap decision allong with Daniel wanting to move closer to home.

I think people's memory is hazy. Graham was not a great pass catcher or route runner...a great blocker, yes, but not that great as an offensive threat.

Watson is cheaper but not as great of a blocker. He was supposed to make big strides in the pass-catching department this year but the light really hasn't come on yet.

The Pats do need to address the TE situation this off-season.
They already have they have David Thomas comiong back from an injury and he showed in his rookie yeara (a couple times) that he could have quite a bit of potential
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