b72s

We no longer have the attitude players on the D.

Belicheck has outlived our rodney Harrison's Vrabels and McGinests and replaced

With just do your job no emotion mantra.

This is a contact and attitude sport.

Oh I miss our D from early 2000's.

I hope he let's the reins loose next year some.

Hire A Young DC to groom for HC

MustaphaM0nd

I think you're confusing "attitude" with quality of play.

USCPatriot

Mayo is clearly becoming a leader, every year he gets more physical and vocal. Those players didn't just wake up one day and say "I think I am going to be a leader today" They grew into them with hard work, coaching and belief in themselves.

Patrick Chung to initiative this year, and although it didn't always work out in his favor, thats the first step to becoming a leader. You act as if leaders come in over night, next year will be even better in terms of players being leaders.

I'm sorry, but when you said "Hire a young DC to groom for HC" you lost me. BB has many good years left in him, i'm pretty sure BB has goals of his own, he would not still be playing if he didn't.

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OldPatsfans

I'm with you

Steve1iron

This draft has to be all about defense. I agree we have lost our defensive swagger long ago. We need to get back to basics and defense wins championships. The young D needs a pass rush badly. First rounders this year should be pass rushing D lineman and pass rushing OLB. This will go a long way toward making this team feared again on the defensive side.

PatriotsInGA

What's with all these new posters being all "doom and gloom". I swear this is the third thread I've seen today saying that BB/Brady is declining in talent.

OldPatsfans

Nice to see this. I felt like the odd-man-out seeing all the rah-rah for highest scoring D. Montana had Charles Haley, Favre had the minister of defense Reggie White.

TriplecHamp

lol that new poster has been here since '05. Anyway, I don't really Disagree with the op, I would like to see sustained emotion like Brady in Pittsburgh or BB during the 45-3 game. There was none of that the last two home playoff games and its pretty disheartening.

voluntarysaftey

I agree about the lack of attitude (but not about replacing BB):
My favorite players in sports have always been guys who are good character guys off the field, but on the field become vocal, mean, intense, and are also at the top of their game.

Examples: Cam Neely, Rodney Harrison.
The 01-04 Pats had a few guys on D who fit the bill. This team really doesn't (other than Wilfork). I think having a few of those guys drives the rest of the team to step up in big games.

The Jets & Ravens have a few that met the vocal/mean/intense. But they aren't good character guys off the field -- they're idiots / a-holes. So I'd actually prefer them not be on the Pats as I dont like rooting for a-holes.

PatriotsInGA

Whoops, my bad . I only saw post count. I apologize to the OP.