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Old 12-23-2007, 10:44 AM   #11
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b."Jacksonville can beat the Pats because they are better suited to play in bad weather than the Pats, because they can run the ball and stop the run."
What has the world come to when popular opinion suggests a team from Florida is better suited to play in cold weather than a team from MASSAFUGGINCHUSETTES?
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Old 12-23-2007, 10:51 AM   #12
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What has the world come to when popular opinion suggests a team from Florida is better suited to play in cold weather than a team from MASSAFUGGINCHUSETTES?
Jacksonville ain't Miami.. I heard it gets to like 45 at night during December..
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Jacksonville ain't Miami.. I heard it gets to like 45 at night during December..
Whoa - they may have to break out an extra layer!
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They do! It was 50 degrees down here one time and these people looked like freakin astronauts.. wearing like 5 layers.
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As for the great debate, LOS trumps secondary. And it's not who gets the deal this offseason - Wilfork's rookie deal is heavily incentivized and he's makin' 'em. His second deal may wait since he's signed through 2009, it will depend on what else they have planned for 2008. Might be a good time to extend Watson before he gets any more consistent or makes a pro bowl. Asante won't get that mega deal here because of what it bodes for other units as well as his own in a year or two when the bonus hits on that kind of deal would begin to mount against new money salary. And because on principle alone they can't give him a highest paid deal because it sets the wrong tone for the guys who didn't push for it and/or weren't planning to.

Welker may not have been snubbed in the classic sense because his generic position of WR is deep and the league shortchanges the roster in this era of offense. But he is just as deserving as TJ, and maybe moreso because he's putting up his numbers from the slot as opposed to all the other WR's selected who are doing it from the #1 position. The league doesn't build a terribly functional Pro Bowl roster in that respect.

As for Light, he isn't a pro bowler any more than he's a potential HOF'er. He's good, not great. Last year he was the THIRD alternate and only made the trip because the other two didn't want to go at the 11th hour. This year he is apparently benefitting from being on an undefeated team in a year when no LT has stood out as a slam dunk.

It's really too bad Rodney shot himself in the foot or he likely would have made the trip to Honolulu. As for Tommy playing golf, you better hope not. He did that in the past when he was not the starter. Last year he was an alternate and that was an insult so why should he. The best time of your life is flying to the Pro Bowl late on the jet of the winning Superbowl owner. If we take care of business, Tom will start his first Pro Bowl.

As for the rest of Ken's idle thoughts, the relationship between the national media and this team is what it is. They have never understood us and we don't make their jobs easier so.... Ho, ho, ho...
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1. I am far more productive these days, since I rarely listen to anything any of the talking heads are saying about the Pats. Its not that they are being SO negative, patronizing, or snide, but because they have NOTHING new to say.


pwp: That has long been my contention. Why waste time and become frustrated listening to the annointed spout inanities? There's more good thoughtfull info right here. Don't watch.

7. The best debate topic question I've seen lately is the one that asks, if you can only keep one long term, who do you sign, Wilfolk or Samuel? I'm leaning toward Wilfolk, but I think I could get talked out of it with the right arguement. Needless to say, I would suspect that THIS will be the biggest topic on the board for the last 2 weeks of Feburary.
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Here's why. The core of a BB D runs right up the middle. With our aging LB corps it's imperative that we have a strong NT to protect the LBs. You can somewhat compensate for average DBs by coverage schemes with safety help. You can't give that help if you're vulnerable to the run and need to keeep the safety up near the LOS.
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Oh didn't you hear? Dungy is saving Addai for the post-season just like BB did with Maroney most of the year (well, according to the posters on PatsFans.com).
I love how the Maroney haters stereotype and basically LIE about what people said regarding Maroney....

BTW, Addai has been getting just as many carries as he had all year. Addai, who has 2 more years of college experience than Maroney, is a good All-Purpose back. He is there the on most plays.

The Pats RUN GAME, in general, has been hurt by the game planning. If you look, the 1st 6 games had the Pats averaging like 33 rushes per game. The next 7 had that down to 20.6 rushes per game. The Jets game saw the Pats run the ball 35 times. The most since week 3 of the season and the 3rd most on the entire year.
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If BB and Pioli let Wilfork go I would rip my hair out. He is probably the most important cog in the 3-4 scheme. 3-4 NTs don't grow on trees.
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I love how the Maroney haters stereotype and basically LIE about what people said regarding Maroney....
I remember the argument for a while on the Maroney bashing threads (probably around the Eagles game) was that since Morris went down, BB was resting Maroney for the play-offs.
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I remember the argument for a while on the Maroney bashing threads (probably around the Eagles game) was that since Morris went down, BB was resting Maroney for the play-offs.
Its that selective reading of yours. What was said was that, DURING THE BUFFALO GAME, BB game the carries to Evans and Eckel in the 2nd half because there was no need to run Maroney. The point was WHY risk injury to him when the Pats have an injury prone Faulk behind Maroney. It was the "haters" who said that it was saving him for the playoffs.


All one has to do is look at the games and see that the Pats PURPOSELY didn't run as much vs the tough run defense teams (Philly, Balt, Pitt). But that they ran a LOT MORE against the other teams.
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