scott99

Is the TE position. It's played a major factor in the growing improvement of this offense.

2010 TE's
75 receptions for 932 yards and 11 TD's (Through 13 games)

2007 TE's
46 receptions for 468 yards and 8 TD's (Through 16 games)

I don't ever think we've seen the Belichick Pats use the TE's as much as we've seen this year. It's amazing how much Gronkowski and Hernandez bring to the offense. We also have better blocking from our TE's than we had in 2007. We had Ben Watson, Kyle Brady & David Thomas, with Brady being a good blocker. Crumpler and Gronkowski are excellent blockers.

CheeseMonkeys

And just to think that most of the success at the TE position in 2010 is coming from 2 rookies.

TheGodInAGreyHoodie

First two TEs that could catch a football this team has since Ben Coats.

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Sicilian

This comparison should be held up as exhibit A, B, C, and D-Z to the theory that it's not just about having great players, but great players that play great TOGETHER. In 2007, we had Watson and Thomas, and the production was low. Since leaving, Thomas has gone on to make big contributions to a Saints super bowl, and Watson is Cleveland's leading receiver.

First thought would be, "Well, Pats don't know how to use the tight end position, clearly..." but then you see the astounding success of Hernandez and Gronkowski, and that idea falls apart too.

Just having talent isn't enough, it has to be the right kind of talent.

TommyBrady12

alge crumpler has been HUGE in the running game. BJGE is running the ball in a way maroney couldn't because the TEs especially crumpler is opening holes for him.

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"He’s the greatest quarterback to ever play the game. He goes from being a rookie that nobody is expecting anything from, to taking over with people saying he can’t do it, to winning three Super Bowls....It should already be obvious he’s the greatest quarterback to ever have played. "

- Steelers S Troy Polamalu on Tom Brady

asfpnepRefugee

I never thought I'd see the day when BB wouldn't flub a TE pick/FA ... it has always been his kryptonite, just like the SS position & Theo over on the Sox.

Apparently he's mastered an immunity to krypotnite because now he has three quality TEs. Crump's more of a blocker these days but can still catch. Hernandez is more of a receiver in the Clark mold, and G-force is the all around guy. I'm so excited to see the two rookies grow over time.

brdmaverick

When Daniel Graham was here he was an excellent blocker and caught some TD passes, but he never lived up to the first round expectations. In fact, he was prone to drops. You're right that Hernandez and Gronkowski completely trounce both Graham and Watson already.

Hernandez and Gronkowski seem to take turns on who has the better game.

The combo kind of reminds me of a better version of the Packers Jermichael Finley/Donald Lee duo from last year. Lee was a dependable receiver with blocking skills, while Finley was a TE with more of a WR mentality.

In this case, Gronkowski is like Lee and Hernandez is like Finley.

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SVN

i think people are discounting the turnovers created by our D and scoring by our D in the last few weeks. The offense has been consistent in moving the ball but the D has really created these blowouts to be honest....

robertweathers

Wiggie could but was a one-dimentional TE at best.

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brdmaverick

agreed in general, but the 2007 had something like 8 return TDs

let me think back.....

Hobbs kickoff return at NYJ
(forget his name) kickoff return vs. Miami
A.Thomas INT vs. SD
E.Wilson INT vs. NYJ
R.Colvin Fumble vs. WAS
R.Gay Fumble vs. CLE
E.Hobbs fumble at BUF

I'm pretty sure there were 8, so there must be one I'm forgetting

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