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Kicker, punter, and long snapper aside, the roster projection for 2011 before changes would be something like what's bolded below. That said:
QB -- Brady, Hoyer. I think this position is set.
RB (Feature/Bruiser/FB) -- BJGE, ? ?. Even if they try to bring Taylor back, they need bodies here.
RB (Passing sets) -- Woodhead, Faulk? I think Faulk will be kept. This is a major position for the Pats; also, leadership counts.
TE -- Hernandez, Gronkowski, Crumpler. I think this position is set.
WR -- Welker, Branch, Tate?, Edelman?, Price?, Slater? A lot of the young guys remain unproven. But do you address that by bringing in yet another young guy?
OL -- Light?, Mankins?, Koppen?, Neal?, Vollmer, Kaczur, Connolly, ?, ? Honestly, I've come to realize that I don't have much in the way of opinions about OL personnel. But as guys age, this is an area where new blood will be needed soon.
Total offense -- 25
CB -- Bodden, McCourty, Butler?, Wilhite?, Arrington? Frustrating as that is, I expect a rookie CB or two in camp.
S -- Chung, Sanders, Meriweather, Brown/Page/McGowan/Lockett. I think this position is set.
ILB -- Mayo, Spikes, Guyton, Fletcher?, White. I think that in BB's opinion this position is set. I infer that in part from McKensie's release.
OLB -- Cunningham, TBC, Ninkovich, Woods? I think that in BB's opinion this position is set. I infer that in part from the Crable/Woods exchange. But clearly Woods could be upgraded.
DL -- Wilfork, T. Warren, G. Warren, Wright, Brace, Deaderick, Pryor/Love? Tough call. One could argue that there are already enough DL players inhouse. But if I'm right that OLB, ILB, and S won't be upgraded -- and if we note that the defense could certainly play a lot better than it has been -- then I bet BB will take a shot at finding another beast for DL.
Total defense -- 25
What's confusing about this kind of analysis is that the offense is aging but playing really well this year, while the defense is young but having its troubles. Age suggests that the offense needs more new blood. Performance suggests that the defense does.
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i think one of the biggest pieces that we could add to this defense for next year is a coverage/free safety to replace meriweather
i really hate myself for saying that, because he is NOT horrible, and is i would say above average on most weeks, and because i loved when we drafted him
BUT, the guy is TOO inconsistent, NOT a leader, doesn't seem to be a PATRIOT type player, and has been with us long enough where I believe he should be playing better
the problem is a new guy would take time to get used to this D, but even so, i believe even this year, if the defense had a free safety to rival chung's production and play at strong safety, that our defense would be leap years better than it is....
just saying, S would be my #1 defensive need going into the draft and i have no idea how good the safeties from this draft might be
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Kicker, punter, and long snapper aside, the roster projection for 2011 before changes would be something like what's bolded below. That said:
QB -- Brady, Hoyer. I think this position is set.
RB (Feature/Bruiser/FB) -- BJGE, ? ?. Even if they try to bring Taylor back, they need bodies here.
RB (Passing sets) -- Woodhead, Faulk? I think Faulk will be kept. This is a major position for the Pats; also, leadership counts.
TE -- Hernandez, Gronkowski, Crumpler. I think this position is set.
WR -- Welker, Branch, Tate?, Edelman?, Price?, Slater? A lot of the young guys remain unproven. But do you address that by bringing in yet another young guy?
OL -- Light?, Mankins?, Koppen?, Neal?, Vollmer, Kaczur, Connolly, ?, ? Honestly, I've come to realize that I don't have much in the way of opinions about OL personnel. But as guys age, this is an area where new blood will be needed soon.
Total offense -- 25
CB -- Bodden, McCourty, Butler?, Wilhite?, Arrington? Frustrating as that is, I expect a rookie CB or two in camp.
S -- Chung, Sanders, Meriweather, Brown/Page/McGowan/Lockett. I think this position is set.
ILB -- Mayo, Spikes, Guyton, Fletcher?, White. I think that in BB's opinion this position is set. I infer that in part from McKensie's release.
OLB -- Cunningham, TBC, Ninkovich, Woods? I think that in BB's opinion this position is set. I infer that in part from the Crable/Woods exchange. But clearly Woods could be upgraded.
DL -- Wilfork, T. Warren, G. Warren, Wright, Brace, Deaderick, Pryor/Love? Tough call. One could argue that there are already enough DL players inhouse. But if I'm right that OLB, ILB, and S won't be upgraded -- and if we note that the defense could certainly play a lot better than it has been -- then I bet BB will take a shot at finding another beast for DL.
Total defense -- 25
What's confusing about this kind of analysis is that the offense is aging but playing really well this year, while the defense is young but having its troubles. Age suggests that the offense needs more new blood. Performance suggests that the defense does.
Hate to be mean, but running back is a young man's position. BJ, Woody and new blood completely. You think they have room for Woody and Faulk? I don't. I could see a bruiser and a more complete back.
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WR - Draft pick, vet? Whatever works. Tate on the hot seat.
OL - Vollmer to left tackle, draft picks. Don't care about the rest.
OLB If they can improve OLB/pass rusher, why not?
DL - one top pick DE - any help available, otherwise. Lardass for backup NT welcome anytime, from anywhere.
S - I would draft a safety, if it's good value. You can get bargains here. I don't feel secure here because all our safeties have weak areas. One complete guy makes it secure for years. Maybe a FA.
CB - stock the pond. Hopefully McCourty, Bodden will be killer, but we know enough not to count on health here. gives us the luxury to go more specialist/lower round. Let's stock up, we've got the picks.
ILB - set? Yeah, except ambitious training campers.
RB:
They are going to keep BJGE and Woody. A speedy-home run hitting back would compliment them. I also see them keeping 2 of them : faulk, taylor, or sammy morris.
OLB:
We need a speed rusher from the other side. Cunningham is going to make huge strides but ...TBC is ok at best.
OL:
Stephen Neal is going to retire and they will need replacement for Matt Light as he has lost a step....and don't forget Mankins
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I'll go on the record and say that Chad Johnson will be here next year, he's owed a lot of money for next year and I'd be shocked if Lewis isn't fired, and the new coach cleans house.
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This offseason, it's almost like Belichick is saying, "I'm never going to let that happen again."
I'd expect the OL and DL to get at least one new player, and the OL could use a few.
When you talk about the offense's age, we're talking mostly about guys like Koppen and Light and Neal, guys who might play another year or two but are clearly on the decline stage of their careers. Connolly can fill in for Neal, but you'll need a tackle and center soon.
I think the DL is solid but unspectacular, and this year's draft is apparently rich with 3-4 DEs, so it'd be an ideal time to draft one and get good value at that spot.
1. HB (either a low draft pick and/or a bargain FA to replace Taylor/Morris. No major moves, I like the backfield as it is now, just with more depth that won't be injured all the time)
2. C - either to immediately step in for Koppen or depth/eventual replacement. It's time to prepare IMO.
4. LT/RT - even if Light is resigned and Kaczur comes back solid, I'd still like one more option there for depth or to replace Light eventually over Kaczur.
5. DE - Still would like an all around type force like Seymour. May not find it but definitely worth a high draft pick. At worst, can't have enough depth here.
6. OLB - Again, I'd like another all around type player. If not, take just take Woods spot
7. OG if Mankins isn't resigned. Not sure what Connolly's contract situation is but hope he's here for the long term.
8. WR
With 8 picks in the first 4 rounds alone the team's in really good shape here.
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i think one of the biggest pieces that we could add to this defense for next year is a coverage/free safety to replace meriweather
i really hate myself for saying that, because he is NOT horrible, and is i would say above average on most weeks, and because i loved when we drafted him
BUT, the guy is TOO inconsistent, NOT a leader, doesn't seem to be a PATRIOT type player, and has been with us long enough where I believe he should be playing better
the problem is a new guy would take time to get used to this D, but even so, i believe even this year, if the defense had a free safety to rival chung's production and play at strong safety, that our defense would be leap years better than it is....
just saying, S would be my #1 defensive need going into the draft and i have no idea how good the safeties from this draft might be
I agree, I liked when we drafted him but he must be driving Belichick crazy with his freelancing and bad tackling.
Yes, we will bring in the usual assortment of running backs and wide receivers. Tate or Price might be the answer at flanker or not. We'll find a free agent running back or two, and a draftee. The filling of positions at WR and RB is business as usual.
The real challenge (and the only real challenge) is on the offensive line. Potnetiall, We have a real mess. One can HOPE that Kaczur is back at near 100% of his capability. We have Vollmer and Connolly coming back. Personally, I think Koppen is a lock for another season.
DEFENSE
I don't think G. Warren is a lock to come back, although I support his coming back. I expect to draft at least one front seven player in the first couple of rounds (actually in the first round). Corner is a continuing opportunity for upgrade. It really isn't reasonable to have corners who aren't solid at the nickel and dime positions.
BOTTOM LINE
The situations on the OL will be the focus of the offseason.
We have the obvious needs at RB, CB and WR.
We have an opportunity to draft a stud or two in the front seven.
We are in great shape for 2011. We might need to use 3 top picks on the OL. My strong preference is to re-sign Light and Mankins.
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Kicker, punter, and long snapper aside, the roster projection for 2011 before changes would be something like what's bolded below. That said:
QB -- Brady, Hoyer. I think this position is set.
RB (Feature/Bruiser/FB) -- BJGE, ? ?. Even if they try to bring Taylor back, they need bodies here.
RB (Passing sets) -- Woodhead, Faulk? I think Faulk will be kept. This is a major position for the Pats; also, leadership counts.
TE -- Hernandez, Gronkowski, Crumpler. I think this position is set.
WR -- Welker, Branch, Tate?, Edelman?, Price?, Slater? A lot of the young guys remain unproven. But do you address that by bringing in yet another young guy?
OL -- Light?, Mankins?, Koppen?, Neal?, Vollmer, Kaczur, Connolly, ?, ? Honestly, I've come to realize that I don't have much in the way of opinions about OL personnel. But as guys age, this is an area where new blood will be needed soon.
Total offense -- 25
CB -- Bodden, McCourty, Butler?, Wilhite?, Arrington? Frustrating as that is, I expect a rookie CB or two in camp.
S -- Chung, Sanders, Meriweather, Brown/Page/McGowan/Lockett. I think this position is set.
ILB -- Mayo, Spikes, Guyton, Fletcher?, White. I think that in BB's opinion this position is set. I infer that in part from McKensie's release.
OLB -- Cunningham, TBC, Ninkovich, Woods? I think that in BB's opinion this position is set. I infer that in part from the Crable/Woods exchange. But clearly Woods could be upgraded.
DL -- Wilfork, T. Warren, G. Warren, Wright, Brace, Deaderick, Pryor/Love? Tough call. One could argue that there are already enough DL players inhouse. But if I'm right that OLB, ILB, and S won't be upgraded -- and if we note that the defense could certainly play a lot better than it has been -- then I bet BB will take a shot at finding another beast for DL.
Total defense -- 25
What's confusing about this kind of analysis is that the offense is aging but playing really well this year, while the defense is young but having its troubles. Age suggests that the offense needs more new blood. Performance suggests that the defense does.
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