TheGodInAGreyHoodie

No kidding. I doubt anyone who was a fan during the Rust era, would be complaining about our win over the Colts.

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SuperPatsFan

The cold hard truth is that by the time BB and Brady are gone, the old-timers will probably have passed, and the younger fans will have dumped the team and moved on to something else.

/real_talk

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AzPatsFan

Baloney. The Pats worked their defensive game plan to near perfection, the entire game giving Peyton no quick, cheap scores. They invited,(forced ), Peyton to take short passes over the middle and burn clock, himself, even as the Pats offense burned clock with 170 yards on the ground. Occasionally, they would make Peyton pay for the short passes with 3 INTs, and should have had 5.

The most prolific offense in the NFL scored 31 points, three over their average. they too did their part, to near perfection.

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brdmaverick

I agree. I turned on the radio after the game (in the car going to dinner) and one guys (I believe he goes by "GRESH") was talking about how he was glad that they won, but could not share in the excitement because the defense did not close out the game. He said, "sure they got the pick, but they still didn't CLOSE out the game."

I was perturbed by that comment. Why do we ALWAYS have to win with style for everyone to be happy. Why can't we just be satisfied with a WIN against a quality opponent? If Pats fans are unhappy with the outcome, then reason would perhaps dictate that the Colts are. Do you think Colt's messageboards are filled with threads of "We may have lost, but we sure made it interesting!!!!". No, they are not happy. They lost. We won, so we should be happy.


I for one, am shocked that they are even in a position to be winning these games. Entering the season, the Pats had guys STARTING on defense when I would have been scared if they were my backups. They are still predictably last in some categories, but they are still winning. Just be happy.

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aluminum seats

So you don't think the Pats "have the horses" to win a playoff game, even though if they beat the Jets they will have beaten every probably AFC playoff team already? Come on now, that doesn't make much sense.

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AzPatsFan

I think you need a new prescription for your glasses. This team is getting better in all aspects every week. The Offense is growing more productive both in their run and pass, and with growing consistency. The Pats O is now consistently rushing for around 135 plus yards a game, or more. Thsoe are championship stats, on the ground. The Patriots Offesne lead the league in the only really important stats, scoring and winning.

The Defense is progressing nicely too. The run defense has stiffened to the point where it of a full championship caliber, now yielding under 100 yards a game. Oh sure, the early Ravens and Jets, and the out-lier Browns games are exceptions, that distort the real stats.

The Pass pressure in steadily increasing, even if the sack totals are not. Belichick's Bend-don't Break is working too. Even as it distorts the stats. Purposely inviting the short pass over the middle, but in front of the deep backs, and LBs will yield yards, but not cheap, quick scores.

Opposing Teams have to work their way down the field over a number of plays consistently, without a pick, or a dropped pass, or a fumble, or a sack, or a good pass defense play. Eight times in ten, the other guys couldn't do it, enough.

This rope-a-dope strategy, inviting short pass completions, limits the number of sacks the Pats pass rushers can accumulate. The pass rushers don't have the time to get there, but they are increasingly forcing pressure and errant throws. I don't recall Peyton ever getting as much pressure,if not sacks, as in this game.

I don't recall a game either, where Peyton made 5 mistakes throwing the ball, and the Pats got 3 INTs, and should/could have had 2 more.

As far as talent is concerned, I echo the comment that the fast, raw talent is there. There are 2 number 1s on the DL, and a number 2; there are 1 number 1s, and 2 number 2s in the LB corps; and there are 2 number 1s, and 3 number 2s, in the DBs. The talent is there, but very young, and learning to play together.

So I fail to understand your comment as to "not getting better" in the remaining 6 games, and playoffs. It flys in the face of Belichikian history too. His teams generally get better as the season progresses, for two reasons. He always has more genuine depth than others, and he plays his newcomers, draftees and FAs early. So they get and have experience later in the season. His depth is showing now, he has lost three probowlers, and is still winning, as others cry "Injury" excuses.

There are seveal players who are developing this year. Unexpectedly, Guyton has been transformed as an inside pass defender. This year's Chung is night and day compared to his rookie year version. Cunningham is coming on, so is Ninkovich. Brace, Pryor, and Deadrick along with re-juvenated G. Warren, are providing key freshness and competency to the D-line. Zoltan has transformed the Punting, into a weapon. So has Tate transformed the returning, into a feared weapon. Mayo is making a bid for a Probowl berth. Most of all they are all coachable, follow the game plan, without free-lancing. What's not to like?

Deus Irae

How do your multiple threads of this nature help the situation?

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robertweathers

You're a tough sell, Tune. You don't need to be championship-caliber at every position to win a SB. Even the 1985 Bears had a flaw or two.

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Tunescribe

Things are a lot different in the playoffs, especially between teams that have played each other and adjust accordingly. But, I certainly hope you are right and I am wrong.

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PatsDeb

Awesome. (and my first name is Debbie).