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Old 11-20-2007, 12:13 PM   #1
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Just want to give a nod to Mike Woicik for another (so far) year of relatively few serious injuries. We're obviously seeing how important that is now that teams like Indy have gone down. (Knock on wood)
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:27 PM   #2
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Just want to give a nod to Mike Woicik for another (so far) year of relatively few serious injuries. We're obviously seeing how important that is now that teams like Indy have gone down. (Knock on wood)
after 5 straight years of injuries the law of averages are on our side i think it has little to do with woicik
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yeah if anything, under this coach the Pats have been the most injured team in the NFL for several years.
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after 5 straight years of injuries the law of averages are on our side
That's a fallacy.

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i think it has little to do with woicik
But that's not a fallacy.

Overall, injuries have been a problem under the current coaching staff.
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Great thread and very good job by S @ C coach.

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I think Woicik could be among the best S&C coaches in the league.

No strength and conditioning coach is ever going to make a team 100% injury free, but an excellent S&C coach can minimize pulls and strains and get the injured back on the field sooner.

Look at Stallworth for example. I think every year he has been in the league he has blown a hammy at some point in the season. Under Woicik he has held up very well thus far.

There are not many S&C coaches out there not named Woicik that can boast of 6 super bowl rings.
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The one time this season where S&C really showed was that last quarter versus the Colts. Their D was gassed. Our D (and our O) was not.
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Once again people, if you credit him for this season, you must BLAME him for the horrific previous seasons. I do believe that the Pats seriously evaluated all their physical policies and methods and made big changes this season. That plus random chance (NOT falacious 'dueness') giving us less injuries this season.
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after 5 straight years of injuries the law of averages are on our side i think it has little to do with woicik
This is wrong on many levels

1) Most of the injuries the Pats have suffered over the past 5 years are catastrophic in nature.

2) Any trainer will tell you that there is no amount of training you can do to prevent a broken bone (Seau, Harrison, Wilson, Light) or an ACL tear (Harrison, Watson, etc).

3) In comparison, I believe that the Pats have had very few muscle related injuries (hamstring pulls, etc)

4) I really don't believe that you can apply the law of averages to the injury situations in the NFL.
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This is wrong on many levels

2) Any trainer will tell you that there is no amount of training you can do to prevent a broken bone (Seau, Harrison, Wilson, Light) or an ACL tear (Harrison, Watson, etc).

3) In comparison, I believe that the Pats have had very few muscle related injuries (hamstring pulls, etc)

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Major point highlighted that I neglected to mention. No blame or credit due for 2.
Credit due for 3. Note BB's recent caution with Moss & Chad Jackson re:hammys.
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