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Old 10-29-2007, 10:01 AM   #1
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http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...Standings.html

INDY vs. Quality Opponents:

22-20 at Tennessee
29-7 at Jacksonville
31-7 at Carolina

NE vs. Quality Opponents:

38-14 over San Diego
34-17 over Cleveland
48-27 at Dallas
52-7 over Washington

If you were to rank there 7 teams from top to bottom San Diego and Dallas are better then any of Indy's opponents and Cleveland and Washington are better then Carolina.

Granted the Pats have played more really bad teams, IE Jets, Fins, but their top end schedule is also better.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:08 AM   #2
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Wow its hard to call a team with Testaverde and Dave Carr quality, also the fact Quinn Gray played most of the Jville game, wants to make me discount both of those from the qulaity category.
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Wow its hard to call a team with Testaverde and Dave Carr quality, also the fact Quinn Gray played most of the Jville game, wants to make me discount both of those from the qulaity category.
The Colts knocked out Garrard. They earned the right to play against Gray.
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I don't understand these peoples logic. On Cold Pizza grr.. First Take this morning, they were saying that the Colts had an edge having played in closer games and were implying that it meant they faced harder, more "challenging" teams. The Pats, on contrary, haven't played in a close game yet, so they believed the Colts had the edge.

So if the Colts player weaker teams, but the game ends up being close, it is a better "test" of tallent than when NE blowsout a team that is better than the team Indy played...

Any person with any sort of intelect would realize that the Patriots have blown out GOOD teams, while the Colts have had close games with mediocre teams. Some how, I just don't see how all these analysts are getting so confused. There is a reason why we haven't had a close game, and it has nothing to do with how "tough" our opponents were. We are THAT much better than even GOOD teams, GREAT teams.
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The Colts knocked out Garrard. They earned the right to play against Gray.
Not sure I'd phrase it that way as the Patriots were called dirty for hitting Losman low.

Regardless, with the QB they faced they are barely "quality opponents".
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The Colts knocked out Garrard. They earned the right to play against Gray.
Wow! A Colts' defender takes out Garrard's knee and the Colts "earned the right to play Gray"? Do you really mean that? So all we need to do is keep on trying to go for Manning's knees on Sunday and we may earn the right to play Jim Sorgi? I'm not suggesting that the Colts tried to injure Garrard or it was a cheap shot by the way.

You don't earn the right to play a back up QB by injuring the starting QB. To even believe that philosophy is more than a little off.

You only earn the right to face a back up QB by making the starting QB play so bad that the head coach pulls him. No team earns anything by injuring another player.
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Not a lick of that matters Sunday. The better team will win.
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http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...Standings.html

INDY vs. Quality Opponents:

22-20 at Tennessee
29-7 at Jacksonville
31-7 at Carolina

NE vs. Quality Opponents:

38-14 over San Diego
34-17 over Cleveland
48-27 at Dallas
52-7 over Washington

If you were to rank there 7 teams from top to bottom San Diego and Dallas are better then any of Indy's opponents and Cleveland and Washington are better then Carolina.

Granted the Pats have played more really bad teams, IE Jets, Fins, but their top end schedule is also better.

Hummmm. So, if N.O. keeps winning, do we get to count that as a "quality opponent" later in the year??


No "fallacy" about it. So far, the SOS is weak. However, NE Awesomes are awesome enough to conclude that regardless of opponents, they are awesome.

Here's SAGS latest rankings and SOS.

NE no doubt will move up the ladder, with future games versus Colts, Ravens, Steelers, and Giants.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagar...terstitialskip
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Hummmm. So, if N.O. keeps winning, do we get to count that as a "quality opponent" later in the year??


No "fallacy" about it. So far, the SOS is weak. However, NE Awesomes are awesome enough to conclude that regardless of opponents, they are awesome.

Here's SAGS latest rankings and SOS.

NE no doubt will move up the ladder, with future games versus Colts, Ravens, Steelers, and Giants.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagar...terstitialskip
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Hummmm. So, if N.O. keeps winning, do we get to count that as a "quality opponent" later in the year??
Such as? The 1-0 Chargers at the time? The undefeated Cowboys at the time? The 4-2 Redskins with that "touted" 5th ranked defense at the time?
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