Pujo

The other part of it is that Drew Bledsoe, Rohan Davey, Kliff Kingsbury, and Matt Cassel have not thrived in this system, so you can't just thank the system and think you can throw anyone in there.

Lampshade

It's just people who still can't admit they were wrong.

The other great QB in the game, Peyton Manning, has been in the exact same offense (and same co-ordinator) his entire career.

I'd also defy anyone to watch the 2005 offense and the 2006 offense and say they were the same.

richpats

Brady put the death nail in "the system" argument last year. No other AND I MEAN NO OTHER quarterback could have a respectable year with what we had at the receiver position. Manning's huge head would have exploded if he couldn't throw those precise sideline routes that his receivers catch and step out of bounds to avoid contact

Remix 6

ur supposed to build it around your Quarterback though.

i mean..if you have a franchise guy. give him the control to do what he needs to

thats just great coaching. im sure Brady can go elsewhere and throw 30 TDs but i dont think the team could be as good despite the #s

if you use what u have properly..your fine.

read a label for medicine or something. if you dont take the proper dosages or use it properly..it might not work.

example. u cant take chad pennington and put him in a verticle passing attack. thats not his style. hes a smart guy who makes reads and doesnt go long a lot because of what he has.

kriskanos

See its people like you who cant remember two weeks ago(I blame this on ESPN and its reactionary reporting) and who have no knowledge of football that make the most asinine comments. In your little mind the Patriots were a juggernaut rolling along when Brady came in. Heres the truth the "system" had just got off to a 5-11 start, then we started 0-2. Enter Brady. Hello Lombardis. No system works well without a smart QB. Besides a true system QB is a ball control QB who just hands off to his superior RBs.(ala worthlessburger, dilfer etc.) These QBs can be exposed by making them pass more. The more they pass the less successful. Brady has never been able(except for 1 year with Dillon) to rely on a great run game. Nor has he ever had a great reciever. This makes him all the more remarkable. And makes you look ignorant. Speaking of QBs does Miami even have one? I almost felt sorry for Ty Law in KC last year, watching him intercept balls in the playoffs running them inside the ten and watching Trent Green get jack shat out of it.

chris_in_sunnyvale

So I guess Joe Montana, John Elway & Dan Marino were products of their systems, too? Come on, you can tell if a guy is good or not by watching him play. I live amongst Raiders fans who are still bitter about the Tuck Rule, but even they have seen enough by now to realize Brady is good on his own. You get a minor free pass because the Phins indeed have spanked Brady around so maybe that's the most of Brady you've seen, but the guy does things that go beyond any system (e.g. outstanding pocket presence, excellent at his checkdowns, expertly looks off his intended receivers, doesn't let a ferocious pass rush get into his head).

Regards,
Chris

Remix 6

Brady wasnt a great talentwhen he came in

listen to this quote by Kevin Durant..im sure someone used it before him

"Hard work beats great talent when great talent fails to work hard"

feelthepain

None of the QB's you mention above had the same system their whole careers. I'm not saying Brady is a system QB, just trying to explain why people would consider him a system QB.

Captain Cliche

What sets Brady apart are his clutch performances. That is an individual thing, not a system thing.

If anything, his accuracy has, until this year, allowed the system to get by with a less than stellar receiving corp.

The whole "dink and dunk...system quarterback" thing is passe and only brought up by casual fans who are out of touch or bitter, pathetic fans of other teams hoplessly grasping at straws.

Any true fan of the game would acknowledge Brady as a bonified star headed to the NFL Hall of Fame whose presence would improve most franchises.

chris_in_sunnyvale

And we're explaining why people who consider him a system QB are lousy at assessing a QB's talent.

Regards,
Chris