PatsSteve1

[QUOTE=MoLewisrocks;464141]I think they are somewhat hamstrung by their own new personal conduct policy. In order to be able to act on some of these guys, the NFL got to NFLPA to sign off on a policy of not requiring actual convictions or even arrests necessarily but rather basing their action on the frequency with which these players come in contact with the police. Vick doesn't really fit the profile.

* As I understand the policy I agree with you. The NFL shounldn't suspend him. But if Arthur Blank, as owner of the team, wants to sit him that's up to him. It's his team. I doubt he could do it without pay.

Tunescribe

Here is the e-mail address to write to the Falcons about Vick: fans@falcons.nfl.com.

DaBruinz

The NFL DID act before Pacman Jones had anything brought against him. And its not like Vick has been squeaky clean. He's had a few run ins that haven't amounted to anything. But then, neither did Pacman's.

FarScapeR

Really, the only person who could make this easier for all involved would be Vick.

MoLewisrocks

This is true. But as might be expected, Michael is too self absorbed and selfish to do that. According to Adam Schefter he has indicated he is still determined to play this season because after all in his world Michael is what the season is all about.

But as Pioli has opined about the limited pool of talent from which the Pats strive to select, there is not an abundance of intelligence in the league, even from Ivy League educated players. Marcellus Wiley was on NFL Total Access tonight and he actually said he thinks Michael's talent will prevail in spite of his legal entanglements and he will just have a tremendous season because he's Michael. He is in fact so talented he doesn't really need to practice. Perdue's Rod Woodson disagreed, and quite frankly looked dumbfounded listening to this genius. He said had Michael been 10 years into success in one system he might be able to navigate an NFL season and his legal problems simultaneously, but that is not the case here. He's experiencing his 4th system in 6 seasons (having mastered none of the previous 3) and if he can't give his full time and attention to the new system Woodson thinks he's doomed. I got the impression Rod thinks he's doomed, period. But then what does Rod know - he's an old school pre gangsta rap era dinosaur headed to the HOF.

captain stone

Nothing wrong with that, at all. Vick should be given a paid leave of absence, effectively immediately, until, at the least, a trial date has been set. Then, if that date is several months away, maybe Goodell, Blank and Vick can think about a return. Maybe.

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alamo

Everyone is msising a huge reason the NFL is being so tentative.

This is OJ redux. The opinions on Michael Vick's guilt (or more significantly, the severity of the penalty if he is guilty) break down along racial lines much more than any of the other cases mentioned. Felger had an Atlanta radio guy on on Thursday who confirmed as much.

Waiting for the court to decide may not solve the root problem, but it insulates the league from criticism that they are biased.

atlpatsfan

[QUOTE he lied to the commish also HAS to be taken into account.[/QUOTE]

I keep seeing this statement. How can you say he lied to the commish if he hasn't actually been convicted yet? Maybe he actually was telling the truth. I personally don't believe he is but this is still America and he should not be tried in the court of public opinion. Give him his day in court and if he is convicted then he deserves everything he gets. If he is found not guilty then everyone who had him set to hang needs to apologize and get off his back.

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nhpatsfan

I keep seeing this statement. How can you say he lied to the commish if he hasn't actually been convicted yet? Maybe he actually was telling the truth. I personally don't believe he is but this is still America and he should not be tried in the court of public opinion. Give him his day in court and if he is convicted then he deserves everything he gets. If he is found not guilty then everyone who had him set to hang needs to apologize and get off his back.[/QUOTE]


I questioned that statement too, as it seems to be second and third hand information.
But four cooperating witnesses? It's a real stretch to keep an open mind at that point. I'd never be picked to be on that jury.

Pats726

I keep seeing this statement. How can you say he lied to the commish if he hasn't actually been convicted yet? Maybe he actually was telling the truth. I personally don't believe he is but this is still America and he should not be tried in the court of public opinion. Give him his day in court and if he is convicted then he deserves everything he gets. If he is found not guilty then everyone who had him set to hang needs to apologize and get off his back.[/QUOTE] Firstly...what I think of Vick and MOST of America does not ride with a convitction or not..he's lowlife scum at best...if anyone needs to apologize it is Vick himself...maybe there is a tooth fairy as well..PLEASE!!! Jow about Vick and an apology for all teh dead dogs found on his property??? The fact of an indictment and a cloud over him is bringing MUCH tarnish to the game, to football and to the Falcons. That is a fact!! But there ARE facts in this case that are indefensable..the live and dead dogs on his property as is the blood found all over the place and the many dog fighjting paraphanalia found. Have you read the indictment?? Or do you just wish to apologize for a creep like him and make excuses. The standard for impacting the game and suspending him is much lower than a conviction..and he should be gone from the game until after his court dates. What statement has Micheal Vick made about what was found on his property?? If he ha dnothing to do with it, why isn't he outraged and cooperating with police?? If you can't answer those questions..you are just another apolgist..I hope he is convicted and does his time..but unless there is evidence of his innocence in this I will think the same of him.