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Cousins,
Pats-We still haven't addressed the safety issue. The Colts exposed the Pats safeties. Sanders is a joke as a starter and contrary to belief is second string material tops. We know one thing, he is allergic to Joseph Adai.

We haven't addressed the QB issue. Matt G. might be camp fodder and an arm.

We haven't addressed the ILB issue. Love the kids we are bringing in, but as someone very astutely pointed out to me, they have a 7% shot to make it.

If the Pats sign Assante, and we hope they do, they can't keep Geno too, nor should they.He's gone after 2007.

There is a log jam at WR and perhaps Caldwell is odd man out. Get something for him.

Then for the Pats FO, they have a very embarrassing 2nd round drfat choice they need to deal with that BB's buddy convinced him to take while at LSU.

The Browns-

Have a log jam at ILB with Thompson, Peak and Davis-We can use either Davos or Thompson as they are both very decent ILB rotation possibilities. RAC has a similar defense and the learning curve is minimal. It took Chad Brown a whole year and Biesel never got it.

They need back up DL help. Maybe RAC can clean up Hill's game. He's the throw in.

Brodney Poole and Sean Jones are really two SS types. Geno could work with either. RAC knows Geno very well. We need a Brodney Poole, not a James "Opps, I Missed" Sanders as the SS future. Merriweather is an upgrade over Wilson on paper.

Browns back up QB Derek Anderson would be expendable, as Frye and Quinn have the upper hand and they have another QB with experience at #3 Dorsey from FLA, who by the way, threw to Caldwell. The Pats take Anderson and groom him to back up Brady and have Cassel available as the 2008 Schaub. Anderson was not too bad in four games started. More experience that Cassel.

The Browns need one more experienced WR. Jureviciuos is 33 years old and they got rid of Northcut. Wilson had three catches. Caldwell caught more balls than anyone on the Browns other than Winslow, including Edwards.

There is no reason this deal could not happen. But then again, I am not Savage, nor Pioli.
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braveht

thank goodness for the 2nd part!!

mgteich

I think that bb and pioli will use whatever methods he needs including trades. We don't see the critical need for a running back. They do. I expect this to come through free agency, but a trade is certainly an option. I think a trade for a backup ILB or NT is less likely, but still possible.

I looked at the players that might be expected to be cut. I don't expect for them to have any trade value, unless we decide to cut Gaffney or Caldwell. I know that people mention the OT's, but it makes no sense to be. Kaycur, O'Callaghan and Britt will not be beaten out if they are healthy. If they are not healthy, they won't be valuable as trade bait. I see a couple of OT's on the Practice Squad, with one making the squad if say O'Callaghan head injuries are more serious that we now know (which is quite possible).

cstjohn17

I disagree with a lot of this, working my way from to top bottom:
- Safety position is fine, the roster really has only one glaring weakness and that is depth at ILB
- I agree that Peyton Manning ripped us apart but IMO he is a sure fire 1st ballot hall of famer, top 10 of all time, not your average NFL QB
- he exposed our 4th and 5th string Safeties, who had no help from the D Line (he had all day to throw) and the ILB play was non existant as was the OLB (anyone ever hear of jamming the TE off the line?)
- no team in the NFL is 3 deep at both Safety spots
- at FS we have a 1st round pick and a player who started 2 Superbowls, I hope Hawkins doesn't have to play any snaps but as a 3rd option he is better than most
- at SS we have Harrison, Sanders (I grade him as an average starter, pretty good backup)

QB - if Brady goes down what does it matter? we may make the playoffs but a championship is out of the question

ILB - a Seau / Hartwell type would complete the picture, one of the rookies can be the 5th option (Bruschi, Vrabel, Seau, Alexander, ROOKIE), again if it comes down to option 5 at any position we are screwed

Trades - fun to play with but not a reality in football, the Cleveland LBs may look good on paper but their defense was terrible against the run, 4th worst in the league over 142 YPG. Plus I stopped reading as soon as you mentioned M. Hill....

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Oh come-on. You'd do the deal.
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AzPatsFan

They still need ILB depth; although Jr would sure help.

arrellbee

Appreciate you observations and perspectives. LB will be interesting to watch.