sebman2112

They thought Branch was going to come back, so his leaving is what messed everything up. Funny thing is I wanted them to trade for Stallworth last year.

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DW Toys

Cousin,
I have a trade that could be made in one second and would help two teams with my explanation of each player involved and why I would do the deal if I were the Pioli and Savage.

NE PATRIOTS-
FACT:THE PATS DEFINITELY NEED AN ILB AND THE DRAFT CHOICES, UDFA AND PRESENT ROSTER DOES NOT FILL THAT NEED.

FACT:WE HAVE A LOG JAM AT OT. WE SIGNED BRITT TO A NEW CONTRACT. WE PICKED UP A POSSIBLE FUTURE RT STARTER IN THE DRAFT AND WE HAVE ONE OF OUR OT'S WE CAN LEVERAGE IN A TRADE.

FACT: THE PATS DID NOT DRAFT OR OBTAIN A SS IN THE FA MARKET NOR SIGNED ANYONE IN THE UDFA POOL TO WORK IN TO REPLACE RODNEY. IF ANYONE SAW THE COLTS PLAYOFF GAME, MR. SANDERS NEEDS A CHANGE OF VENUE. HE PUT FORTH "0" EFFORT TO STOP ADAI IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME FOR THE GO-AHEAD TD. HE IS A BACKUP AND THAT IS ALL.

FACT:ALTHOUGH DRAFTED IN THE SECOND ROUND, DE MARQUIS HILL WILL NEVER START HERE WITH THE TALENT BEFORE HIM AND HE NEEDS A NEW START TO COMPETE ELSEWHERE AS HE MIGHT BE A POSSIBLE CUT.WE DRAFTED HIS REPLACEMENT AND ANOTHER TWO UDFA PICKS.

FACT:WE HAVE A LOG JAM AT WR. FIVE HAVE CONTRACTS THAT COULD END IN 2008. CALDWELL WAS THE MOST PRODUCTIVE BUT HIS STATUS IS TENUOUS AT BEST.

FACT:NE HAS TWO QB'S PLUS A UDFA. CASSELL CAN BE GROOMED AS A SCHAUB TYPE TRADE VALUE FOR 2008 BUT WE NEED A QB TO WORK INTO PLACE.

CLEVELAND BROWNS-
FACT: THEY NEED A STARTING RT AS KEVIN SHAFER SAYS HE WILL NOT PLAY THERE AND REQUESTED A TRADE. THE NY GIANTS WOULD LIKE TO OBTAIN SHAFER BUT THE BROWNS NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN PLAY THERE.

FACT:THE BROWNS HAVE A LOG JAM AT ILB AND IN FACT HAVE PICKED UP ANOTHER IN FA IN ANTWAN PEEK WHO CAN PLAY OLB, DE AND ILB.

FACT: THE BROWNS HAVE A LOG JAM AT S. SAFETY WITH TWO VERY GOOD PLAYERS IN SEAN JONES AND BRODNEY POOL. THEY HAVE SIGNED OR PICKED UP IN THE DRAFT AT LEAST 5 NEW DBS'.

FACT: THE BROWNS HAVE A LOG JAM AT QB (SEE BRADY QUINN). THEY HOLD LEVERAGING THERE TO TRADE ONE OR PERHAPS A CUT WILL NEED TO BE MADE. I BELIEVE THEY WILL KEEP FRYE AND HE MIGHT START IN 2007 UNTIL BRADY IS READY.

FACT: THE BROWNS FAILED TO OBTAIN ANY REAL EXPERIENCED DEPTH AT WR AND HAVE LOST DENNIS NORTHCUT TO FA. WILSON HAD ONLY TWO RECEPTIONS AND WAS SUPPOSEDLY TO PLAY OPPOSITE EDWARDS. JUREVICIOUS IS 33 YEARS OLD AND ALMOST DONE. THEY NEED A DECENT NUMBER TWO OR NUMBER THREE EXPERIENCED RECEIVER FOR THE YOUNG QB'S.

FACT: THE BROWNS CAN USE BACK-UP DL HELP.
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BLOCKBUSTER TRADE******

N.E.TRADES:

NICK KACZUR-OT= GOOD STARING LEFT OR RIGHT TACKLE TO START UNTIL THOMAS IS READY TO PLAY LEFT. THEN KACZUR PLAYS RIGHT

MARQUIS HILL-DE=BACK UP DL HELP ROMEO IS FAMILIAR WITH AND MIGHT CAN IMPROVE WITH PLAYING TIME.

JAMES SANDERS-SS=BACK UP TO JONES AT SS OR MAYBE HE IS A BETTER FS. DON'T REALLY WANT TO KNOW.

RECHE CALDWELL-WR=SOLID VETERAN PRODUCTION IN 2006. CAN HELP BROWNS YOUNG WRS AND WILL HELP HIMSELF WITH EDWARDS DOUBLE TEAMED.HIS 62 RECEPTIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST OF THE BROWNS WR IN 2006.

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CLEVELAND TRADES:
ANDRA DAVIS-ILB=STARTS IMMEDIATELY FOR THE PATS IN A ROTATION. GREAT PRODUCTION. STILL ONLY 28 YEARS OLD.

BRODNEY POOL-SS=FUTURE HARRISON REPLACEMENT. PLAYS THE GAME RODNEYS' WAY. A TREMENDOUS UPGRADE OVER SANDERS. A BRODNEY MUST TAKE OVER FOR A RODNEY.

DEREK ANDERSON-QB=SHOWED SOME SIGNS OF TALENT. HAS MUCH MORE NFL STARTING EXPERIENCE THAN CASSEL AT FOUR, IF GOD FORBID.........
WILL BE THE IMMEDIATE NUMBER TWO QB IF THE PATS CAN GET A DECENT DRAFT CHOICE FOR CASSEL. QUINN MADE HIM EXPENDABLE.

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cstjohn17

Trades are fun but I am not good at figuring them out. I think they will bring in a veteran FA or two to fight for a backup spot but not until after the rookie camp.

Names (not all good names but a list of names)
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/fa?po...ositionId%3d30
- Short, Hartwell, Seau, James Allen, Foreman, Godfrey, Irons, Huff, Kacyvenski, Tim Johnson, Singleton, Taylor, Torrey)

Throw them into the Octagon, winner takes 1 spot and the winner of the Warren/Lua undercard takes the other.


From Reiss "The team has a rookie minicamp scheduled for May 12-13, a full-team minicamp June 5-7, and the offseason program extends through June 22."

AzPatsFan

I could see a trade with Philly for Trotter, who they are trying to phase out.

Ochmed Jones

I really don't see BB trading for anymore bodies anytime soon, however I would not be surprised to see him trade excess bodies to other teams for draft picks (or conditional draft picks) after the first game or tow of the preseason schedule. Kind of like what he did with Gorin last season.

PATRIOTSFANINPA

Perfect Season?..I don't know how you can even expect anything like that,Its ridiculous - 12-4 most likely and even if we had the best 4 LBs in the league we will NEVER go 19-0...Dreaming is free - Reality check needed buddy

psychoPat

I agree:


- I think it's premature to say Vrabel lost a step, but some would disagree.
- I think Rosey's 8.5 sacks in the NEP defense is comparable to his 10.5 at Chicago.
- I think Adalius is a pretty decent signing.
- I think the Coaches are happy with Alexander's development.
- I think Seau can be had.
- I expect at least one more veteran signing as clubs trim down for training camp.


I DISagree:

- I think it's premature to say Bruschi lost a step, but some would disagree.
- I wouldn't be surprised to see the Pats bringing in additional UDFA LB prospects for tryouts as clubs weed through their rookie camp rosters.


Ya talked me into it, ya silver-tongued fox:

- I think Woods is further along than TBC was at the same point in his career.
- I think Mays is a stud ST'er, and may even be a bit ahead of Alexander at the same point in his career.
- I think Rogers, Lua, and Warren are good signings and players to keep an eye on.
- I think things aren't as bad at LB as some would believe, especially if Troy Brown's knee is doing well.Fun twist! But i thought the same thing this time last year ... and the year before that.
Well, okay. In for a penny, in for a pound!

psychoPat

DaBruinz

BOX -
I have got to disagree with you on Mays. Woods is a STUD special teamer. Mays is a DUD special teamer. If I am not mistaken, Mays was the most penalized special teamer last year.... and he only played in 8 games last year.

I know you and I disagree on Alexander. I think that the Patriots coaching staff disagrees with you as well. I think that in the AFCCG, it was a case of the lesser of two evils. Basically, I mean that I believe that Alexander saw the field because having TBC on the field didn't give them enough pressure on the QB from the OLB position and that Alexander was the best of a bad crop of LBers who could attempt to cover the TE.

Had Chad Scott been available to go against Dallas Clark, I think that we would have seen the Pats in a nickle package of some sort with Scott lined up against Clark.

PatsWickedPissah

I agree that they wouldn't do it but mainly because RAC was here and could see what a useless big stump Marquise Hill is.

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