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Indeed. Oddly enough, I think these two offences are beginning to look remarkably similar. At least on paper. Change Marvin, Reggie and Dallas with Addai in the backfield for Randy, Donte and Ben with Maroney in the backfield. This year's 38-34 might look like a defensive stalemate compared to next year's showdown!!
Wow! You're right:
Harrison - Moss
Wayne - Stallworth
Gonzales - Welker
Clark - Watson
Maroney - Addai
Both teams might as well make the punter inactive, as they each score 7 every time they get the ball.
Regulation ends with the score tied, 133-133.
Whoever wins the OT coin toss scores 6 and wins the game.
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I'll tell you one thing, I don't think he'd get far chewing Peyton Manning out like he did Culpepper. But the Patriots, having lots of structure and discipline, are a better fit for Moss-at-30 than the laid-back Colts.
Why not?
Reggie Wayne chewed out Peyton pretty good.
And Peyton just stood their like a little school girl in the Ghetto
That's a REALLY interesting question, Workhorse. I can't answer it with any confidence but I can ask you some questions back as a way of getting clearer.
It seems to me that there are three ways in which the situation for Moss at the Pats might differ from that at the Colts. I would be interested to know how you see them. (I should say that this isn't trying to contrast the Colts unfavourably with the Pats -- you were worthy Superbowl winners last season -- nor taking for granted that the trade for Moss will work out (though I AM optimistic -- see sig).)
First, it's undoubtedly a good thing for Moss that the Patriots have such a negative attitude towards media access. Some guys attract media attention and it hurts and upsets them. It was obvious that Corey Dillon LOVED not having to talk to the media -- the way that he sat there silently and scowled! Obviously, Randy is a different kind of guy, but I hope he realizes that not being able to talk to the media is a blessing for him. Would it be the same in Indianapolis?
Second, there are some senior guys on the Pats who have just as much "swagger" as Randy and won't hesitate to confront him if he gets out of line. OK -- I'm thinking of Rodney Harrison. Are there similar characters in Indy? My impression of Marvin Harrison is that he's more of a quiet perfectionist who leads by example.
Finally, it may be an advantage that the Patriots offense is still very much "under construction". The Colts have a system that works for them and has been refined and refined under the same OC for a very long time. It would surely be a case of fitting Moss to the system rather than adapting the system to Moss.
All of that said, I share the reaction of my fellow Pats fans -- if Moss had gone to Indianapolis, I'd have said that a very good team just got better.
Excellent points Mike. To which I would add the dis-similar situation involved in defending a title rather than avenging just missing out on a title, and Belioli and Kraft vs. the laid back Dungy (who may be gone after this season), the outspoken Polian (who will publicly call a player or unit out in anger and then spend weeks backpedaling), and Irsay who is basically at Polian's mercy.
Not to mention even at a discount they couldn't afford him from a compensation standpoint in cap or trade. They needed their 4th's which were nearly 5ths anyway to fill vacancies on defense they couldn't avoid or fill in FA because of existing cap concerns even after the obvious restructures.
Considering I am not as overjoyed of the acquisition of Moss as many other people are, I guess my reaction would be measured. I just don't know if Moss is this elite WR anymore. I think he is a good WR, but I am not convinced that the last three years was because he was upset with his situation or the talent around him.
I personally think Moss is more suited for the Colts' offense. They run a more vertical offense than we do. Granted he would have to fight for playing time.
I am not convinced you change your offense to accomodate Moss when it doesn't give Brady the opportunity to exploit his talents best. Brady is "The Franchise" and Moss is as of right now is an one year player who may or may not be here in 2008. I think they will find a role for Moss, but there will be no Randy Ratio in New England.
So I could actually see Moss being more impactful with the Colts although most likely not.
I am not convinced you change your offense to accomodate Moss when it doesn't give Brady the opportunity to exploit his talents best.
You know all those long passes Brady has sent downfield over the past 3 years only to be dropped by one ***** head receiver or another????
Moss catches those. They wont change their offense but it will allow them to complete those deep passes.
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You know all those long passes Brady has sent downfield over the past 3 years only to be dropped by one ***** head receiver or another????
Moss catches those. They wont change their offense but it will allow them to complete those deep passes.
Moss works better in a vertical offense with a lot of fades and go routes. In all the highlights that they have shown on Moss since Sunday has anyone seen him run a route that didn't have him basically running in a straight line down the field?
I do think Moss can be a deep threat for the Pats, but I am not convinced that he will be much more than a deep pass specialist. Granted, even if he is, we got our money's worth.
I do think Moss can be a deep threat for the Pats, but I am not convinced that he will be much more than a deep pass specialist. Granted, even if he is, we got our money's worth.
I rather prefer to think of Moss as a TD maker more than anything. I see those 101 career TD's of his and figure he's easily good for 15 TD's with Brady tossing him the rock. I would think that most would be scored via the deep pass and when in the red zone but how those TD's are attained doesn't really matter so long as they are made.
On top of that he will require a double team every time he runs a route....
Who is better than Tom Brady at going through his reads???
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Re: A slightly different Moss question
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