stattry

Lost in the "he's an all star who just ran a 4.3/40 and he gives Brady a dangerous deep threat and now the patriots WRs are the best in the league" vs. "he's a cancer who will poison/ruin the entire team" is the middle ground, that, in my opinion is the most likely scenario:

His production has certainly declined in recent years and he's playing for a team that spreads the ball around (no randy ratio here for sure).

I don't think he'll really get all that many touches and I don't think he'll be a huge factor, especially if one of the other new WRs establishes a connection with Brady.

Only one ball to go around to a LOT of skill players

PushnPencils

Why has his production declined? Age? Durability? Injuries?

He's only 30. He hasn't really been hurt and admittedly he was putting much effort into the Raiders.

I predict about 65 catches and a 1000 yds for him this year.

Crazy Patriot Guy

That sounds good.

I doubt he is going to come here and shred the NFL like he did in Minnesota but I do expect much improvement from what we saw in Oakland.

He does sound very excited to be here just like Dillon did and he went on to have the best season of his career. Not that Moss will do the same obviously but I would be more shocked by him not improving at all than him putting up Minnesota-type numbers.

stattry

don't know why production declined. just saying it may not be something that just "clicks back on" once he's here, especially since he shouldn't be the focal point of the offense like he was back when he put up the insane stats.

65 catches/1000 yards seems a little high to me, though not unreasonable

RayClay

Is his desire to be part of a team sincere? If so, there aren't other problems.

No taking off plays, no mouthing off/whining.

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stattry

I don't think he'll be a huge problem; I just don't think he'll really be a big factor one way or the other

TheSeymonsta

I do....Remember all those bombs that Brady put up and were missed by;

Caldwell
Jackson
Gaffney


Moss will catch those.

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Hoodie

I disagree. If he's out there, the opposition needs to respect that and if they double team him, that leaves someone else open. That's a big factor in my opinion.

patsfan13

He'll be a huge factor because he will demand double coverage and stretch the D. He will make it easier for all the other receivers and for Brady, also since teams won't be able to put 8-9 in the box it will open up the running game.

The number of catch's won't tell the story of his impact on the team.

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Patriot_in_NY

The two probably go hand in hand. If his desire is TRUELY just to win, then he has to realize that even just decoying and sprinting downfield every few play will ALWAYS mean that 2 guys get pulled well away from the play. That'll clear out so much room for the other guys to move. He'll obviously get his touches too.

Bottom line, if winning is his primary motivation {and it seems to be}.... weather he gets 70/1200 or 40/600 his service will be invaluable to this offense. He has to know that after nine years in.