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Old 05-01-2007, 01:05 PM   #11
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He'll be a huge factor because he will demand double coverage and stretch the D. He will make it easier for all the other receivers and for Brady, also since teams won't be able to put 8-9 in the box it will open up the running game.

The number of catch's won't tell the story of his impact on the team.

Quite agree!
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:40 PM   #12
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Quite agree!
I understand all the optimism regarding Moss; just don't think it's realistic.

I don't think he's the game changer anymore that he used to be.
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:43 PM   #13
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I understand all the optimism regarding Moss; just don't think it's realistic.

I don't think he's the game changer anymore that he used to be.
But here's the question.

Why?

The year before the Patriots got him, Corey Dillon had aroun 500 to 600 yds. rushin for Cincy. Was he on the decline? Was he not impactful anynore?
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:50 PM   #14
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Lost in the "he's an all star who just ran a 4.3/40 and he gives Brady a dangerous deep threat and now the patriots WRs are the best in the league" vs. "he's a cancer who will poison/ruin the entire team" is the middle ground, that, in my opinion is the most likely scenario:

His production has certainly declined in recent years and he's playing for a team that spreads the ball around (no randy ratio here for sure).

I don't think he'll really get all that many touches and I don't think he'll be a huge factor, especially if one of the other new WRs establishes a connection with Brady.

Only one ball to go around to a LOT of skill players
His decline in production is a little worrisome, but I'm confident it will go back up to where it needs to be.

He's not going to catch 100 passes for 1500 yards and 15 TDs, he doesn't have to.

BB has said himself, Moss has been double teamed more than any wideout in the past decade, that's what this move is about. Moss is one of the few players at his position that can truly dominate a game. It's going to make it a lot easier for Brady, Stallworth, Welker, Watson, Thomas, Maroney, Caldwell, Faulk, and all the other weapons on the team to make plays.
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Hate to disagree so strongly with a new member but.... Moss gives us an additional flexibility that we didn't have before. Giving BB and Brady more options is a huge advantage, especially as the season ages. I'll bet that's going to give many DC's and HC's a few sleepless nights!
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His decline in production is a little worrisome, but I'm confident it will go back up to where it needs to be.

He's not going to catch 100 passes for 1500 yards and 15 TDs, he doesn't have to.

BB has said himself, Moss has been double teamed more than any wideout in the past decade, that's what this move is about. Moss is one of the few players at his position that can truly dominate a game. It's going to make it a lot easier for Brady, Stallworth, Welker, Watson, Thomas, Maroney, Caldwell, Faulk, and all the other weapons on the team to make plays.
i agree, not 100 catches, MORE then that, not 1500 yds, MORE then that, and well, hes already got 16 tds, LOL
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:13 AM   #18
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I couldn't agree with this post any less. If Moss is declining than why does he have 16td's? The last time I checked 16 is a lot. Matter of fact I think the last time a WR caught more was by Randy Moss himself with 17. Terrel Owens caught 85 balls last season and 13 TD's. Is he on the decline because he didn't catch a 100?

Who knows what Randy's #s will look like by the end of the season? But I'll tell you this. A declining Randy Moss is worth his weight in gold compared to any Wr we have had on this roster in 25 years as long as he maintains a good attitude. My opinion is all.
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I couldn't agree with this post any less. If Moss is declining than why does he have 16td's? The last time I checked 16 is a lot. Matter of fact I think the last time a WR caught more was by Randy Moss himself with 17. Terrel Owens caught 85 balls last season and 13 TD's. Is he on the decline because he didn't catch a 100?

Who knows what Randy's #s will look like by the end of the season? But I'll tell you this. A declining Randy Moss is worth his weight in gold compared to any Wr we have had on this roster in 25 years as long as he maintains a good attitude. My opinion is all.

Check the date it was posted homey
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i agree, not 100 catches, MORE then that, not 1500 yds, MORE then that, and well, hes already got 16 tds, LOL
LOL, looks like I was wrong again.
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