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Old 04-28-2007, 07:55 PM   #1
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Looks like the Jets and Patriots saw very little value in the 2007 draft.

The Jets took the picks they did have, packaged them all up (except for a 6 and a 7), and got 2 players that should help them pretty quickly. Revis was the top-rated corner in the draft and Harris looks to fit Mangini's scheme (and also allow Vilma to shift into a more natural role).

The Pats took the picks they had (except for the 24 they used on Meriweather) and kept moving, down, down, back, back, and out. Added 2 picks next year and now have 4 picks in a 10-pick stretch at the bottom of Round 6 / top of Round 7.

New England has been good at finding 2nd day players (8 of 10 total picks from last year are still on the squad), but in this case, I think I like the Jets' plan better. The Pats had fewer needs than the Jets. And they certainly had the picks to come up with 2 solid packages that would have allowed them to trade up for a Beason... or stay put for a Harris.

One thing is for sure, even if the Pats' plan works out better in the long run... the Jets' plan is a lot more fun to watch on Day One.
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Old 04-28-2007, 08:10 PM   #2
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I just drove over two hours home to hear we once again traded out and up into next year. Man-gina obviously thought the same way as we did but blew his whole draft on a couple of players this year. Earlier, being caught up in draft frenzy, I was dissapointed. And I thought Mangina had the better of us. Thinking about it now, we traded up in round one and round 3 (probably) and gained a 4th and 5th. We lost no picks. We gained 2. BB/SP believe that next year's draft is a superior one to this one and have strategically placed themselves to be part of it. Mangina, seeing no value either, sold out for what he believes to be two quality players in this draft. We shall see in time, but I feel better about it now.

BB did say that many players with first day grades on the talking heads' boards didn't deserve draft status on his. He graded them out as UDFA. So he loaded up on day 2 looking for value and diamonds in the rough and parlayed into next year. Its easy to get caught up in the hype when you read these mocks and top lists and study the draft without looking at the bigger picture of how this draft stacks up with next year. I did.

BB did this once before, and it worked out great, so I am satisfied.

BTW, that is probably why the team was so active in FA to fill their holes. They knew this draft was a dud at the top.
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We've got two players: Meriweather and Welker and pushed our 2nd first into 2008. The jets got their two players. In a sense this is even. Some here would surely prefer Revis and Harris to Meriweather and Welker.
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Now let's look at the rest of the draft.

The jets have a seventh.
The patriots have a high 2008 3rd, and nine picks tomorrow.

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Which strategy do you prefer?
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We've got two players: Meriweather and Welker and pushed our 2nd first into 2008. The jets got their two players. In a sense this is even. Some here would surely prefer Revis and Harris to Meriweather and Welker.
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Now let's look at the rest of the draft.

The jets have a seventh.
The patriots have a high 2008 3rd, and nine picks tomorrow.

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Which strategy do you prefer?
Well, I think we could have moved up with our two firsts and third and drafted LaRon landry, and that would have been pretty damn cool. I'm not sure I would complain if we had.

But instead of usign the two firsts and the third for Landry, we end up with Meriweather, an early fourth and eary seventh round pick, and a first and third next year.

I guess we will have to see who we get with those four picks tomorrow and next year to get a final answer, but I'm satisfied with how it was done.

I think we will win the division and go deep into the playoffs, and will be even stronger next year with 5 first day picks.
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Well, I think we could have moved up with our two firsts and third and drafted LaRon landry, and that would have been pretty damn cool. I'm not sure I would complain if we had.

But instead of usign the two firsts and the third for Landry, we end up with Meriweather, an early fourth and eary seventh round pick, and a first and third next year.

I guess we will have to see who we get with those four picks tomorrow and next year to get a final answer, but I'm satisfied with how it was done.

I think we will win the division and go deep into the playoffs, and will be even stronger next year with 5 first day picks.
whey would we go up that high and pay a rookie the same money we wont pay samuel and meriweather is the next ed reed and we get the 49ers pick next yer maybe a top 15 pick it worked out for us the jets maid there team better they will be a 10-6 or 11-5 team next yer but we will be a 14-2 superbowl champs
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BB did say that many players with first day grades on the talking heads' boards didn't deserve draft status on his. He graded them out as UDFA. So he loaded up on day 2 looking for value and diamonds in the rough and parlayed into next year.
Thats good enough for me. Why waste a bullet just because you have it in the chamber?
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BB did say that many players with first day grades on the talking heads' boards didn't deserve draft status on his. He graded them out as UDFA.
... and I thought he was setting a smoke screen. Doh! lol.
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I still think the Bills had the best draft out of any team in the AFCE
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And remember, this 110 we got from San Fran could turn out to be very important. It's our second pick of the whole draft!
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:02 AM   #10
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I thought that the Jets' plan was brilliant. Like BB and Pioli, they

realized that the 2007 draft was a dog. Instead of punting the ball

into 2008 like the Pats, they tried to make the best of the situation.

They packaged picks and ended up with two good players for 2007.

The Pats can't make that claim this morning.
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