AndyJohnson

The Texans have a former 1st overall pick at QB, who hasnt exactly been great, but I think the consensus is he has been in a tough situation and does have the ability he was drafted to have. In others a still developing potential excellent QB.
Atlanta has backup QB who was a so-so prospect coming into the draft, has barely played in the NFL, and has been mentioned as a guy who could be a good fit in a WC offense, but has yet to show anything.

The Texans proceed to give up 2 seconds, plus 2 spots in round 1 for the right to obtain the backup, who they then pay 48 million for years.
The Texans release the starter and get nothing.

It COULD turn out that Schaub is a better QB than Carr. But how can you pay that much for an unknown and then not even attempt to get anything back for a guy like Carr?????????

When the Schaub trade was made, I said I guess this means they better get at least 2 seconds for Carr. They got nothing.

Someone please explain to me why Schaub is worth so much and Carr is worth absolutely nothing?

Bella*chick

The Texans FO is a pile of morons?

Other than that, I got nothin'.

JDP111

EXACTLY. Especially considering the Texans passed on Vince Young and Matt Leinart in the draft last year. . . . .

mtbykr

Not much else you can say, you hit the nail on the head! What would be hillarious is if Shaub craps the bed (with a lousy team) and Carr lands somewhere and does well!

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dhamz

Can't speak to Schaub but Carr has no trade value.

He has 2 years and 23 million left on his deal which makes it impossible the Texans could keep him on the roster. No team is going to give up much (a 7th was the rumor of what was offerred for him) for a guy who is about to be cut. Carr has little motivation to rework his deal for the team he is traded to unless it is where he wants since he knows if he refuses to renogotiate, he is an UFA. The Texans have been shopping Carr the entire off-season so it isn't accurate when it is reported that it was a knee jerk reaction after they acquired Schaub.

The Texans were left with cut Carr now and start fresh or cut him a few weeks from now and deal with the daily Carr questions in hopes to get a very late draft pick.

Canada's #1 Pats Fan

Somehow, I think all of us believe that is exactly what is going to happen.

The Coon

Exactly. Carr has no trade value with his contract (no team is willing to pay Carr that much for what Carr has shown so far). They could sign Carr for much less and not have to give up anything.

I will agree with the consensus that the Texans gave up far too much to get Schaub though. I think Quinn would be there at #8 and they would still have their 2 2nd rounders. Or they could have called our front office and seen what it would take to get Cassel ( it wouldnt have taken as much as it did to get Schaub)

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signbabybrady

I am sure they tried to make a deal and couldnt, but you would have thought they could get at least a late day two pick or even a day two next year.

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lusdawg

Didn't Buffalo essentially do this with Rob Johnson? How did that work out? That's an awfully big gamble for Houston with so much money and now no real back-up QB.

patfanken

Andy, the only parallel I can think of is the situation Jim Pluncket found himself with the Pats in the early 70's. As you probably know, Jim was the #1 pick of the Pats in 1970. He had a great rookie year, but over the next couple was crushed by playing with a bad team. By the time the Pats traded him to SF for multiple picks, he was just a shadow of QB who came here as rookie. He then failed at SF before being picked up as a back up by the Raiders. By then both his body, and more importantly his mind had healed, so when the opportunity to play with the Raiders occurred, he was ready. Ultimately he lead them to 2 superbowl wins and legitimized his career.

Carr's situation seems eerily similar. This release could be the best thing that can happen to him. Now he can go to some team with low expectations and great value. Ideally he can back up for a year before he can get a chance to show his off his skills in a better situation. IMHO, if we weren't committed to Matt Castle as Brady's back up, playing in NE would be a perfect situation for him for a year.

The more I think of it. This SHOULD be the place for him to sign a one year contract. He would experience a winning situation, great organization, solid offensive system, and best of all, absolutely no expectations. He would have a year to get his head straight, and greatly improve our back QB situation. He has plenty of money, so signing a vet minimum contract wouldn't matter financially. THEN after several good exhibitions games or back up opportunities, he can be a value to the Pats as trade bait at the end of 2007. Both sides would profit immeasureably.

If I were his agent, and really cared about the long term success of this guy, this would be a perfect scenerio. After a year with the Pats he would be ready to take over a program again. In the mean time the Pats would be repaid by having a deeper QB situation for 2007, and an extra mid level (or better) draft pick in 2008. If he goes and rushes into another bad situation, like Oakland, he will only put himself into a position to repeat history...again.

BTW - The muliple picks we got from SF for Plunkett helped create the talent pool that got the Pats a few good teams at the end of the 70's