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Old 02-24-2007, 03:16 PM   #11
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$10 says he and Tom are on it as probable/questionable.
I was gonna say that. Probable, leg!
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Old 02-24-2007, 03:28 PM   #12
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I know this wont be a popular opinion. I think Rodney is close to the 'time to move on from' stage. Dont get me wrong, I think he has been great here, and still can contribute. But part of the process of keeping the team on top is developing a roster with a strategy. There are numerous aspects of this.

1) Having a core group of players that are excellent and reliable.
2) Constantly adjusting that core by moving on from older players and adding younger players to it.
3) Having younger players that are working toward being part of that core in the future.
4) Stop gaps
5) Projects that arent necessarily part of #3 but could end up being in either category 3 or 4.
6) Making sure that first you have a good enough core, then that you give opportunity to guys in category 3 and 5 to become part of category 2.

We have seen this trend over and over as BB moves on from core players as they either become old or are looking for excessive contracts (pay one too much and you ultimately have fewer core players). McGinest, Milloy, Branch, woody, andruzzi, vinatieri, law, and others.

If you take a step back and consider Rodney he is part of the core, but every day a less vital part of it, as he ages and continues to have injuries. A theme throughout BBs building this team is he moves on from players a year too soon rather than a year too late. I think its safe to say that if you look at 2009 Rodney Harrison will either no longer be here or no longer be a part of the core, and rather a stop gap, hanging on. Would that be also true in 2008? If so, what do you do about 2007? Make room for the future core players at safety? Keep Rodney as a stop gap? Split time?

I think there is no question the end is near for Rodney. What it comes down to is how much value does he bring before the end, AND how much does keeping him detract from developing the next guy in line.

Whether its this spring, next spring or 3 years from now, the day is going to come when the Pats move on from Rodney. That will be a sad day for me, but to not recognize it is coming would be wrong. Recognizing it is coming means that the best timing of it for the overall present and future of the team must be decided.

I expect he will be back for 2007, but I would not be surprised at all if he is not.
Sure, Rodney will end his carrer sometime and I don't think that the Patriots will have to be the ones to make that move.

However, he will come back this year and if he can avoid the freak injuries he will have a very good year.

If some dirty @#$#%^%*&&$%$ bastard like Bobby Wade doesn't put a "legal" dirty hit on him- he will be fine. I think that we need to bring in a young replacement for him but not make it a high draft choice.

Daren Stone from UMaine could be just that guy and we should be able to grab him in the 4th with a comp pick.
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I know this wont be a popular opinion. I think Rodney is close to the 'time to move on from' stage. Dont get me wrong, I think he has been great here, and still can contribute. But part of the process of keeping the team on top is developing a roster with a strategy. There are numerous aspects of this.

1) Having a core group of players that are excellent and reliable.
2) Constantly adjusting that core by moving on from older players and adding younger players to it.
3) Having younger players that are working toward being part of that core in the future.
4) Stop gaps
5) Projects that arent necessarily part of #3 but could end up being in either category 3 or 4.
6) Making sure that first you have a good enough core, then that you give opportunity to guys in category 3 and 5 to become part of category 2.

We have seen this trend over and over as BB moves on from core players as they either become old or are looking for excessive contracts (pay one too much and you ultimately have fewer core players). McGinest, Milloy, Branch, woody, andruzzi, vinatieri, law, and others.

If you take a step back and consider Rodney he is part of the core, but every day a less vital part of it, as he ages and continues to have injuries. A theme throughout BBs building this team is he moves on from players a year too soon rather than a year too late. I think its safe to say that if you look at 2009 Rodney Harrison will either no longer be here or no longer be a part of the core, and rather a stop gap, hanging on. Would that be also true in 2008? If so, what do you do about 2007? Make room for the future core players at safety? Keep Rodney as a stop gap? Split time?

I think there is no question the end is near for Rodney. What it comes down to is how much value does he bring before the end, AND how much does keeping him detract from developing the next guy in line.

Whether its this spring, next spring or 3 years from now, the day is going to come when the Pats move on from Rodney. That will be a sad day for me, but to not recognize it is coming would be wrong. Recognizing it is coming means that the best timing of it for the overall present and future of the team must be decided.

I expect he will be back for 2007, but I would not be surprised at all if he is not.
Good post. I agree the time is fast approaching and we need to be prepared for it. While no one knows what direction we'll go in the draft, I'll be surprised if we don't draft a safety in the first two rounds.
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Old 02-24-2007, 07:00 PM   #14
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Rodney will be back this coming season, but I really hope that Belichick and Pioli are going to have a decent backup plan in the event that he goes down again. I wouldn't say he's done yet, but obviously age is catching up with him quickly.
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Rodney will be back this coming season, but I really hope that Belichick and Pioli are going to have a decent backup plan in the event that he goes down again. I wouldn't say he's done yet, but obviously age is catching up with him quickly.


How is "age catching up with him quickly"?

He has had three freak injuries, one by a dirty shot. He was back in the Jax game palying to about the old Rodney. I know that we should draft a safety of the future.

Age catches up with evryone. But, where is your evidence to say it's catching up with him quickly?
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Old 02-24-2007, 08:12 PM   #16
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I fully expect Rodney will be back. I also fully expect that the Pats will draft a safety, one of the stronger positions in an overall weak draft class. The only safety on the current roster whom we can expect to see in 2008 in Sanders, time to start grooming another youngster.
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Old 02-24-2007, 09:00 PM   #17
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This is a very good post by Andy Johnson. Fans are clamoring

for the Pats to re-sign Troy Brown and Junior Seau. The trouble is

that the Pats will get the 36 year old and 38 year old versions of these

players instead of the terrific younger players we remember.

I feel that a lot of the recent Pats' decisions have been stop gap. Sign

a player to a two year contract at minimum salary and little or no signing

bonus. Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney fall into this category. They

will showcase their talents for two years and then move along to another

team for much more money and leave the Pats' cupboard bare at wide

receiver.
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:00 AM   #18
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Rodney is the heart and sole of the secondary...We all know the end is coming...Just hope win one or two rings before Rodney's farwell...Sanders is a student of Rodney teaching....Rodney needs more student(s) in his class
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