Whatarunweareon...

Hi all, I was in Herrenberg Germany watching the Pats Indy game on a slingbox with poor bandwidth so picture quality and tivo control problems limited my ability to analyse play by play action.

Now that I have returned to the US and have the game on a HD Tivo I was reviewing the Troy Brown offensive pass interference call. I thought pass interference was only when the ball is in the air, Troy made contact with the DB about 3 yards from the line of scrimmage and was separated from the DB before Brady threw it to Watson. In fact the DB moves laterally to disrupt Troy's route which is OK within 5 yards, but the DB initiated the contact and Troy’s response pushed the DB backwards.

I posted a regular speed video with Simms audio totally supporting the call, and a second one in slow motion.

Am I missing something on the rules about PI?

I still think we had more than enough opportunities to win the game but I think this is the decisive play of the game. Troy was fine, just bad luck it was his play.

Regular Speed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36-Elv4ZGzc

Slow Motion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B05NpcKZ1XA

Whatarunweareon...

Sorry links were bad:

Regular speed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrjk7Rg8K7k


Slow Mo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXBWoe3qPgE

Krugman

When I saw that play live,I thought that Brown gave the guy a good shot,must have been past the 5 yard mark ,it was hard to tell by the camera from the rear,and the only comment I recall was "oh yeah Brown's gonna get a flag for that" or something similiar.When I see this,he is clearly well within the 5 yd zone.....As much as I hate the Colts they still beat us,but crap like this can end a season for a team,the PI and roughing the passer penalties have got to change somehow,they are starting to ruin this game.

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Fixit

Man, that call is worse than I thought it was. Troy and the defender were legally chucking each other.

Oswlek

I thought it was a good call live, but now with the benefit of slow motion, I have changed my mind. I had orignally thought that Brown just ran into a guy who had set his postion, but that was not the case. The defender clearly moves to his left just as Brown was coming near him and is mostly responsible for the contact being so forceful.

Also, I don't know if this matters, but the ball was not out yet when Brown and the defender collided. If the penalty was on the D, it would have only been a 5 yarder, not the 10 that NE was penalized. Is that a further mistake? Is there an "Illegal Contact" penalty on a WR?

PATSNUTme

When I first saw the title of the thread I felt like .

But now that I have read the title again, I just feel like

kolbitr

Yep, and what makes it even worse is that it was called on the one person on the field I would trust to know exactly where he was, and what was legal.

A momentum-breaker. Still...it's only one play.

Seymour93

For a Patriots' WR, yes there is.

That's so frustrating to watch. The NFL will get those videos scrapped from YouTube any second now.

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sieglo

So what is that, now.... THREE definitely bogus PI calls against us or not made for us in that game, and counting.... Worse than Denver last year.

BelichickFan

It was 4 yards downfield. I assume that's legal just like it's legal for a DB to do the same to a WR within 5 yards.

Am I wrong ?