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Old 01-21-2007, 09:37 PM   #1
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1. Offensive Pass Interference on Troy Brown
2. Face guarding was called on Ellis Hobbs, but it wasn't called on the guy who held Reche Caldwell.
3. Reche Caldwell's drop
4. Pass interference on the guy guarding Graham at the end wasn't called.
5. Belichick inexplicably calls a run to Heath Evans when Manning is destroying the Patriots defense.
6. 15 yard penalty for a love tap on Manning
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Old 01-21-2007, 10:22 PM   #2
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Say what you want about non calls and penalties, but the defense sucked in the second half, blew a 18 point lead and allowed the Colts to get back into the game.

I'll give you this; the Brown penalty was HUGE as it would have been first down on about the 20; worst case scenario, we get three there, but we got nothing and it was all downhill from there.

BTW, I assume by Reche's drop you mean the second one where there wasn't a Colt defender within fifteen yards of him and if he had gone to the end zone like everyone on the sideline was screaming for him to do, that's a touchdown, but instead, it looked like he froze and then dropped the ball. Did you see his eyes after both drops; talk about a deer in headlights. Maybe now there was a reason he was available. Maroney sucked too, the big stage got to him...............
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The way I saw it the things that cost us were:

Physical -

Our defense was gassed as the half approached. I thought they went prevent just because that's what they tend to do (to piss me off), but I think in this case they had little choice. BB said the SD game and cross country travel took a lot out of them. Our age is showing and while our depth is pretty good those guys don't start for a reason. And I have no doubt Polian frigged with the AC.

Mental -

Errors. 12 men in the huddle killed that last drive. That and the fact that we really haven't been able to run the ball consistently all season and particularly for the last month or so. Dillon is aging rapidly - would be fine for the tough two or three yards but he has lost a step. And Maroney either hit the rookie wall about a month ago or he's dinged up. Not even quick or powerful in the return game of late and dancing behind the LOS more than ever. RTP even as weak as it was. Encroachment inside the 5. Both safeties getting caught looking in the backfield and burned for a huge gain on 3rd down.

Bad calls -

If that wasn't PI on Reche I guess I just don't know what it is after all. Hobbs never laid a hand on Wayne and the ball hit him in the back of the head and they call that? For the most part they let them play, and it must have been driving Polian insane. But they made one weak call and one glaring non call and both of them proved costly for us.

Poor performance -

The two glaring ones are on Caldwell. One cost a TD so that was really a killer. That was the knock on him according to my relatives who are SD fans - he will make some great grabs and then just drop the easy one which will often prove disasterous.

The sad thing is how hard this team fought and how close they got - speaks volumes to just how little they were missing, but they were missing enough legit talent that it's a further testament to the system and the sheer intestinal fortitude of the core of this team that they took it to the final minute of the final 4. I knew they couldn't score a TD in under a minute - FG was doable but just not enough bankable talent beyond Tom on that offense to put it in the EZ.

That said -

Two first round picks. Hopefully Chad Jackson shows up in 2007 too. And it would be great if Ben Watson actually emerges one day. Hopefully Asante is at least worth the franchise tag after tonight whether they use it to trade him or play him, and Hobbs is a keeper - you can see why Belichick loves him. Hope Rodney and Tedy and Junior and Bingo have one more run left in them and we get some real talent to augment the two most important positions in a BB defense - LB and SS. I'm kind of concerned about Seymour, he wasn't on my pro bowl card and with $30M due over the next 3 years he should have been. I know the mantra on double teams but I.m just not feelin' it.

I hope it snows in Miami on February 4th.
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I am absolutley disgusted that the Pats lost to the Colts of all teams. I can't express my loathing of that franchise and everything they stand for adequately.

I can't believe they blew this game after dominating for the 1st half. They had a chance to put a dagger in their heart towards the end of the half and couldn't get it done. That was THE key lost opportunity IMO.

Also with a lead and the ball at the end. A few 1st downs might have finished the job.

The Pats blew it. Last season and now today. These opportunities don't come around very often.

Very disappointing season. It's not enough just to play in a couple playoff games anymore. It used to be, but not after 3 SB victories.
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The way I saw it the things that cost us were:

Physical -

Our defense was gassed as the half approached. I thought they went prevent just because that's what they tend to do (to piss me off), but I think in this case they had little choice. BB said the SD game and cross country travel took a lot out of them. Our age is showing and while our depth is pretty good those guys don't start for a reason. And I have no doubt Polian frigged with the AC.

Mental -

Errors. 12 men in the huddle killed that last drive. That and the fact that we really haven't been able to run the ball consistently all season and particularly for the last month or so. Dillon is aging rapidly - would be fine for the tough two or three yards but he has lost a step. And Maroney either hit the rookie wall about a month ago or he's dinged up. Not even quick or powerful in the return game of late and dancing behind the LOS more than ever. RTP even as weak as it was. Encroachment inside the 5. Both safeties getting caught looking in the backfield and burned for a huge gain on 3rd down.

Bad calls -

If that wasn't PI on Reche I guess I just don't know what it is after all. Hobbs never laid a hand on Wayne and the ball hit him in the back of the head and they call that? For the most part they let them play, and it must have been driving Polian insane. But they made one weak call and one glaring non call and both of them proved costly for us.

Poor performance -

The two glaring ones are on Caldwell. One cost a TD so that was really a killer. That was the knock on him according to my relatives who are SD fans - he will make some great grabs and then just drop the easy one which will often prove disasterous.

The sad thing is how hard this team fought and how close they got - speaks volumes to just how little they were missing, but they were missing enough legit talent that it's a further testament to the system and the sheer intestinal fortitude of the core of this team that they took it to the final minute of the final 4. I knew they couldn't score a TD in under a minute - FG was doable but just not enough bankable talent beyond Tom on that offense to put it in the EZ.

That said -

Two first round picks. Hopefully Chad Jackson shows up in 2007 too. And it would be great if Ben Watson actually emerges one day. Hopefully Asante is at least worth the franchise tag after tonight whether they use it to trade him or play him, and Hobbs is a keeper - you can see why Belichick loves him. Hope Rodney and Tedy and Junior and Bingo have one more run left in them and we get some real talent to augment the two most important positions in a BB defense - LB and SS. I'm kind of concerned about Seymour, he wasn't on my pro bowl card and with $30M due over the next 3 years he should have been. I know the mantra on double teams but I.m just not feelin' it.

I hope it snows in Miami on February 4th.
couldnt have said any of this better myself

honestly, bruschi shouldnt be starting anymore, i love the guy, but hes nearing the end, he just doesnt make plays anymore
and artrell hawkins did awful this postseason
we were so close and i really dont know when ill get over this, its gonna be a llooong time
its just so hard to swallow because both of the last two yrs we seemed so outmatched, hurt, aging or whatever but both times we were so close to winning it all again-especially this yr
God, we shouldve won this game
im so frustrated its just terrible
i had a really weird feeling we were gonna lose the game when troy brown was called for pi and we didnt get anything out of that drive to end the first half, and then when we only got a fg instead of a td when reche had his second drop i knew they would get a td and win the game
i just dont even know what to say anymore
i wanna get up for the sox season, but the pats are my boys, as most of u guys feel in here, i just put so much of my heart into this team and when they lose like this it hurts bad
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Say what you want about non calls and penalties, but the defense sucked in the second half, blew a 18 point lead and allowed the Colts to get back into the game.
The non-calls and bogus penalties were the DIRECT REASON that the defense blew the 18 point lead.

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I'll give you this; the Brown penalty was HUGE as it would have been first down on about the 20; worst case scenario, we get three there, but we got nothing and it was all downhill from there.
Yep. BIG time game changer there.

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BTW, I assume by Reche's drop you mean the second one where there wasn't a Colt defender within fifteen yards of him and if he had gone to the end zone like everyone on the sideline was screaming for him to do, that's a touchdown, but instead, it looked like he froze and then dropped the ball. Did you see his eyes after both drops; talk about a deer in headlights. Maybe now there was a reason he was available. Maroney sucked too, the big stage got to him...............
Yes, Reche choked, but wtf are you smoking regarding Maroney? How did he stink? The run blocking wasn't exactly the greatest and the Patriots did NOT stick with the run at all tonight.

There was also some questionable play-calling by Belichick.
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The non-calls and bogus penalties were the DIRECT REASON that the defense blew the 18 point lead.



Yep. BIG time game changer there.



Yes, Reche choked, but wtf are you smoking regarding Maroney? How did he stink? The run blocking wasn't exactly the greatest and the Patriots did NOT stick with the run at all tonight.

There was also some questionable play-calling by Belichick.

i agree that the run blocking was not great, as it wasnt allllll year, but maroney def did a lil too much dancing in the backfield
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The non-calls and bogus penalties were the DIRECT REASON that the defense blew the 18 point lead.



Yep. BIG time game changer there.



Yes, Reche choked, but wtf are you smoking regarding Maroney? How did he stink? The run blocking wasn't exactly the greatest and the Patriots did NOT stick with the run at all tonight.

There was also some questionable play-calling by Belichick.
The playcalling in the 3rd qtr was awful we ran into 9 men in the box on first doen, PA pass anyone? They never a winded D a break.
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Another play that shouldn't have happened:

The TD toss to Klecko. The Pats made this play what it is, yet nary more than a LOS brush occurred. Klecko was WIDE open.
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In the end 3 plays cost the Pat's the game: it was 1st and 10 with a little more than 2 minutes left in the 4th. If the Pats get the first down then at minimum it would leave very little time for the Colts to score. Dungy looked like the Colts were probably beat.

Result:
Offensive 12 On-field, 5 yards, enforced at NE 40 - No Play, loss of 5 yards.
T.Brady pass short right to R.Caldwell to NE 42 for 7 yards.
T.Brady pass short left to B.Watson to NE 46 for 4 yards.
T.Brady pass incomplete short right to T.Brown.
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