PAY Samuel!! - Page 3 - New England Patriots Forums

***BelichickFan*** · 01-22-2007, 08:26 AM

I want him back as much as anyone. But his great season also increases his trade value. Not to beat a dead horse but we MUST franchise him to hopefully sign long term but, if not, trade. I see no reason we couldn't get a 3rd #1 pick for him but for sure we could get a #2. Before you guys jump on me, John Abraham got a low #1 last year as a Franchised UFA.

The best case would be to sign Nate Clements as a UFA and trade Samuel to really stock up in the draft. But I'll be as happy as the next guy if we re-sign Samuel to big money long term.

sdaniels7114 · 01-22-2007, 08:31 AM

If they don't sign him, would this be proof positive that Corners just can't be a part of the Pats 'core?'

***BelichickFan*** · 01-22-2007, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sdaniels7114

If they don't sign him, would this be proof positive that Corners just can't be a part of the Pats 'core?'

Depends on the money. If he gets good, but not nutty, money then yes. But if he gets some outrageous money if wouldn't mean a whole lot.

upstater1 · 01-22-2007, 08:39 AM

How much money are we talking about here?

I'd be willing to give the kid a Ty Law contract, $6 million per. At least as much as we were going to give Deion Branch.

The Bills are going to sign Nate Clements. They already stiffed London Fletcher because of the anticipated Clements signing. Clements is 26 years old. He's not going anywhere.

Fletcher is available.

***PATSNUTme*** · 01-22-2007, 08:42 AM

All those who want an average $7mil cap hit for 4 years to sign Samuels, please raise you hands.

Then another 4 mil to sign Graham. Another 3mil to sign to sign TBC. That's 11 mil for those 3 guys.

Is that OK with you?

All_Around_Brown · 01-22-2007, 08:59 AM

I do not want Samuel here next year. Fortunately, my crystal ball tells me I will get my wish.

upstater1 · 01-22-2007, 09:08 AM

3 million for Tully?

I don't see why we need to pay that. Also, no team in this league is going to opay Graham $4 million per.

***DaBruinz*** · 01-22-2007, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mavfan2390

This guy is young and still has amazing potential.

This guy is a top 5 corner in the league.

This guy is just as important as Richard Seymour.

If we lose this guy we will be very very sorry, he isn't Branch, he's a top tier corner, and we NEED him.

How do you figure that a guy who is a lousy tackler (good hitter, good cover guy) is a TOP 5 corner in the league? Half his interceptions were gimmes. I don't remember him going up and taking a pass from a receiver more than 4 times this year.

Samuel has the benefit of our good pressure on QBs (normally).

***BelichickFan*** · 01-22-2007, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

3 million for Tully?

I don't see why we need to pay that. Also, no team in this league is going to pay Graham $4 million per.

I doubt we'll make TBC a starting job offer. We'll go back to Vrabel and Colvin outside and sign an ILB to go with Bruschi - then sign or draft a young ILB to be Bruschi's replacement in 2008.

We have a decent shot to re-sign Graham, Denver was probably the biggest threat but they have Sheffler looking good. Seattle probably still likes Graham, he could go there.

***DaBruinz*** · 01-22-2007, 09:16 AM

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To matchup with the Colts you need both your #1 and #2 corners to be strong. And you better have quality depth at nickel and dime back as well. Who remembers Alexander getting burned for a deep TD because we ran out of unfatigued cover personnel?

So sign Samuel, draft and impact DB. And dip your toe into the Briggs and Stallworth sweepstakes as well. That's how we need to rebuild.

I believe that the Packers did something similar before they went to the Superbowl in '96, they drafted bigger corners to deal with the wideout threats of teams like the Rams of that era, etc.

Briggs is getting Franchised and I think that Adalius Thomas and/or Jarrett Johnson are better options, price wise.

Stallworth doesn't impress me so I don't see the Pats going after him. He just doesn't seem like a Pats "type" player.

Kevin Curtis or Drew Bennett would be better options for this offense, in my opinion.

I wouldn't mind the Pats signing Wes Welker, if he only gets the minimum tender offer.