Originally Posted by tabzilla

I'm just going to post some stuff I've seen with SD since some of the stuff I've read so far seems very vanilla


Sand Diego on Offense:

1. San Diego tends to stretch out the run in both directions (left or right) and is the top in the league at wide runs to both sides. They actually run the ball better the more the play is stretched. Which partly attests to LT's ability/vision to cut up whenever there's a hole and partly because of his and his O-line's speed.

To beat SD's strength (running the ball) we will have to hold the corner with TBC and Rosie (and possibly Vrabes at times) and force the run up inside. In fact SD is mediocre at best in running the ball inside. Not sure if its because their O-line isn't strong enough or whether they are not technially sound at "fighting in a closet" as is often the description of that kind of work). In terms of personel and stats they will not be able to run up inside on us Our D-line will prevent them. We've already faced the best in the league at the up the gut running and held our own (Jax, Buffalo, Chicago). But can we set the edge or will LT get outside???

2. In terms of passing the ball Rivers is only good because of play action. If they can't run, Rivers will not pass. Its kinda like Indy's running offense in reverse. When LT's numbers go down, up come River's Int's.

3. The third thing that stands out to me is when SD is on offense is that they are very poor at third down efficiency. Is it because they become predictable??? If so This could be a long day for SD.



With the Pat's on Offense:

1. We have a decent Running game.. which means it comes down to matchups. Lucky for us, SD has problems with a power running O-line (our hallmark this year, we actually run better against strong teams rather than finesse teams). Meaning we line up and try to knock the snot out of you... no silly blocking.

Case in point SD has given up big yards to the top Power run teams (KC, Buffalo, and Cleveland - yes Cleveland is the #3 power running team) and in each case had a hard time winning, or have los tthe game. On the flip side, scheme running teams like Denver get mauled by SD... can't say exactly why, but I imagine that if SD gets outmuscled, their defense loses most of its advantage. I would have liked to see Jax or Carolina go against SD to test this theory.

2. With Brady clicking.. we should be able to move the ball well against them without resorting to the run. SD isn't very good at stopping the pass.

3. I wonder how the screen will work against Merriman. I haven't seen much of this strategy used against him and given our recent success as the screen it will be interesting to see how this matches up.


I could see this as the typical setting up the run with the pass and when we get within 15 yards... just going back to the power run.



Just some thoughts and things to watch when the game starts.

Originally Posted by kotong

Maybe the Pats can do this at the 1 yd. line but not further back. No team has run straight up the gut against San Diego.

Originally Posted by tabzilla

I'm just going to post some stuff I've seen with SD since some of the stuff I've read so far seems very vanilla


Sand Diego on Offense:

1. San Diego tends to stretch out the run in both directions (left or right) and is the top in the league at wide runs to both sides. They actually run the ball better the more the play is stretched. Which partly attests to LT's ability/vision to cut up whenever there's a hole and partly because of his and his O-line's speed.

To beat SD's strength (running the ball) we will have to hold the corner with TBC and Rosie (and possibly Vrabes at times) and
force the run up inside. In fact SD is mediocre at best in running the ball inside. Not sure if its because their O-line isn't
strong enough or whether they are not technially sound at "fighting in a closet" as is often the description of that kind of
work). In terms of personel and stats they will not be able to run up inside on us Our D-line will prevent them. We've already faced the best in the league at the up the gut running and held our own (Jax, Buffalo, Chicago). But can we set the edge or will LT get outside???

2. In terms of passing the ball Rivers is only good because of play action. If they can't run, Rivers will not pass. Its kinda like Indy's running offense in reverse. When LT's numbers go down, up come River's Int's.

3. The third thing that stands out to me is when SD is on offense is that they are very poor at third down efficiency. Is it because they become predictable??? If so This could be a long day for SD.



With the Pat's on Offense:

1. We have a decent Running game.. which means it comes down to matchups. Lucky for us, SD has problems with a power running O-line (our hallmark this year, we actually run better against strong teams rather than finesse teams). Meaning we line up and try to knock the snot out of you... no silly blocking.

Case in point SD has given up big yards to the top Power run teams (KC, Buffalo, and Cleveland - yes Cleveland is the #3 power running team) and in each case had a hard time winning, or have los tthe game. On the flip side, scheme running teams like Denver get mauled by SD... can't say exactly why, but I imagine that if SD gets outmuscled, their defense loses most of its advantage. I would have liked to see Jax or Carolina go against SD to test this theory.

2. With Brady clicking.. we should be able to move the ball well against them without resorting to the run. SD isn't very good at stopping the pass.

3. I wonder how the screen will work against Merriman. I haven't seen much of this strategy used against him and given our recent success as the screen it will be interesting to see how this matches up.


I could see this as the typical setting up the run with the pass and when we get within 15 yards... just going back to the power run.



Just some thoughts and things to watch when the game starts.

Originally Posted by tabzilla

I'm just going to post some stuff I've seen with SD since some of the stuff I've read so far seems very vanilla


Sand Diego on Offense:

1. San Diego tends to stretch out the run in both directions (left or right) and is the top in the league at wide runs to both sides. They actually run the ball better the more the play is stretched. Which partly attests to LT's ability/vision to cut up whenever there's a hole and partly because of his and his O-line's speed.

To beat SD's strength (running the ball) we will have to hold the corner with TBC and Rosie (and possibly Vrabes at times) and force the run up inside. In fact SD is mediocre at best in running the ball inside. Not sure if its because their O-line isn't strong enough or whether they are not technially sound at "fighting in a closet" as is often the description of that kind of work). In terms of personel and stats they will not be able to run up inside on us Our D-line will prevent them. We've already faced the best in the league at the up the gut running and held our own (Jax, Buffalo, Chicago). But can we set the edge or will LT get outside???

2. In terms of passing the ball Rivers is only good because of play action. If they can't run, Rivers will not pass. Its kinda like Indy's running offense in reverse. When LT's numbers go down, up come River's Int's.

3. The third thing that stands out to me is when SD is on offense is that they are very poor at third down efficiency. Is it because they become predictable??? If so This could be a long day for SD.



With the Pat's on Offense:

1. We have a decent Running game.. which means it comes down to matchups. Lucky for us, SD has problems with a power running O-line (our hallmark this year, we actually run better against strong teams rather than finesse teams). Meaning we line up and try to knock the snot out of you... no silly blocking.

Case in point SD has given up big yards to the top Power run teams (KC, Buffalo, and Cleveland - yes Cleveland is the #3 power running team) and in each case had a hard time winning, or have los tthe game. On the flip side, scheme running teams like Denver get mauled by SD... can't say exactly why, but I imagine that if SD gets outmuscled, their defense loses most of its advantage. I would have liked to see Jax or Carolina go against SD to test this theory.

2. With Brady clicking.. we should be able to move the ball well against them without resorting to the run. SD isn't very good at stopping the pass.

3. I wonder how the screen will work against Merriman. I haven't seen much of this strategy used against him and given our recent success as the screen it will be interesting to see how this matches up.


I could see this as the typical setting up the run with the pass and when we get within 15 yards... just going back to the power run.



Just some thoughts and things to watch when the game starts.

Originally Posted by Oswlek

The Chargers' D is not at all what it is cracked up to be. I will do a larger post with offense and defense as well as end of year trends, but here are the breakdowns on the SD defense based on my points for/against style of analysis.

Season
PA - 18.9 vs. 19 ~ +.1

Season minus the first two games
(I exclude this not because they were the best two games of the year by SD, but because it was the Raider's first game of the year and it was the Kerry Collins led Titans. We all know that those are not indicative at all of what will happen on Sunday)
PA - 21.1 vs. 19.6 ~ -1.5

Season excluding the games Merriman missed
PA - 16.3 vs. 19.8 ~ +3.5

Games Merriman played minus the first two
PA - 18.9 vs. 20.6 ~ +1.7


This is a nice group that contains some very talented players. But there is no way that anyone could objectively look at these numbers and come away thinking that SD is a defensive force. Even the best of the above numbers (+3.5) more than two points away from what the Jets had been doing since their bye week. As I said before, if NE stops SD's pass rush, most will be surprised at how well NE moves on them.

Originally Posted by boltssbbound

Does your analysis factor in "garbage time" points? Because in their last five games, the Bolts have allowed a total of 13 points in the first half, while jumping out to leads of 17-0, 28-3, 14-3, 10-0 and 27-7.

Originally Posted by Oswlek

No because it would require a lot more time than I have to do everything.

The quick and dirty of it is if you look at how many total points better than the opposition allowed/scored the two teams are, the one that nets out the best average usually wins playoff matchups. So far I have not factored garbage time into things, but the stat has been 10-1 in games that I looked into.

I am sure that SDs offense will certainly help their total score, but the points allwed figure is surprisingly mediocre.