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SVN · 12-12-2006, 11:37 AM

what is the story on them ? ignoring the record i mean...strengths/weaknesses. I assume they kinda run the denver system which should make it more interesting but anyone watched them enough to provide any details ?

***BelichickFan*** · 12-12-2006, 11:59 AM

Very quick stat check says :

Running they're tied for 21-25th averaging 3.8. We average 3.9.
Run defense they're tied for 23/24th averaging 4.4. We allow 3.5 (with Vince).

Passing they average 6.4 per pass. We average 6.83.
They allow 7.49 per pass. We allow 6.81.

They have 16 takeaways and 20 giveaways. We have 27 takeaways and 24 giveaways.

Their punter nearly leads the leage in average but also leads the league in touchbacks and is middle of the road in IN20%. Of course, we have Walter

***PatsDeb*** · 12-12-2006, 03:48 PM

Good Lord we need a win this week, and a convincing one. Doesn't Houston have a crappy O line and a passer who goes down early and often? I thought our D did pretty well against Miami; they just couldn't keep it going through the 4th quarter since they had been on the field all game. Please tell me that the Texans do not have a good pass rush. PS - What is going to keep other teams from copying Miami's game plan? (Prevent the receivers from getting off the LOS and tee off on Brady).

***BelichickFan*** · 12-12-2006, 03:57 PM

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PS - What is going to keep other teams from copying Miami's game plan? (Prevent the receivers from getting off the LOS and tee off on Brady).

It's all about the players. Like was said in the other thread, what Miami did leaves TE open - but with Miami that leaves you with less options to double Taylor. Or you can double him and . . . bye bye TE. Houston doesn't have a Taylor.

***BelichickFan*** · 12-12-2006, 04:00 PM

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Doesn't Houston have a crappy O line and a passer who goes down early and often?

Yeah, Houston is tied for 7th/8th worst in sacks allowed with 38. We are 14th with 25 allowed. Defensively, we have 34 sacks and they have 26 so this is to our advantage all the way around.

***BelichickFan*** · 12-12-2006, 11:03 PM

Bump . . . all Gabriel and McDaniels but no Texans ?

TracerTrav87 · 12-13-2006, 12:23 AM

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I think Gary Kubiak has one of the best offensive minds in the NFL. Unfortunately, with the Texans he lacks too much talent.

He doesn't lack talent overall, he lacks talent on the line. The Texans Offensive Line has been plagued with injuries.... Chester Pitts is the only lineman that is still starting from the beginning of this year. The line has not had a chance to gel, and Kubiak needs an offensive line that can help move the ball.

Right now the Texans are playing Ron Dayne as the #1 RB because he hits the holes quickly and can bring a few guys with him. Wali Lundy will get some goal line and 3rd down touches, depending on how Kubiak is preparing for this game. Samkon Gado could be active as well.

As far as WR, the Texans have depth. The only problem is that the O-line doesn't give David Carr enough time to take a breath before he has to get rid of that ball. Get ready to see a lot of quick 3 or 5 step drops followed by dinks and dunks up the field.

The Texans defense has really improved since the beginning of the year and is led by rookie DeMeco Ryans, who leads the league in Solo and Total Tackles.

All in all I hope that it will be an injury-free, enjoyable game.

edgecy · 12-13-2006, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TracerTrav87

He doesn't lack talent overall, he lacks talent on the line. The Texans Offensive Line has been plagued with injuries.... Chester Pitts is the only lineman that is still starting from the beginning of this year. The line has not had a chance to gel, and Kubiak needs an offensive line that can help move the ball.

Right now the Texans are playing Ron Dayne as the #1 RB because he hits the holes quickly and can bring a few guys with him. Wali Lundy will get some goal line and 3rd down touches, depending on how Kubiak is preparing for this game. Samkon Gado could be active as well.

As far as WR, the Texans have depth. The only problem is that the O-line doesn't give David Carr enough time to take a breath before he has to get rid of that ball. Get ready to see a lot of quick 3 or 5 step drops followed by dinks and dunks up the field.

The Texans defense has really improved since the beginning of the year and is led by rookie DeMeco Ryans, who leads the league in Solo and Total Tackles.

All in all I hope that it will be an injury-free, enjoyable game.

Haven't been keeping track of Mario Williams, how is he working out for you guys?

SVN · 12-13-2006, 07:58 AM

the fact that its the denver system ..zone blocking and all..makes me wary of them irrespective of their record

***PatsDeb*** · 12-13-2006, 08:15 AM

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the fact that its the denver system ..zone blocking and all..makes me wary of them irrespective of their record

I didn't think about that one. BB and Brady (and McDaniels) have to change things up somehow. Did they try the hurry-up offnese in Miami? It doesn't seem like they tried it too much. I was so numbed by the results and our failure to change things up that I can't remember. All I can recall is Brady sprintiing backwards 15 yds., holding the ball too long, then sack. I couldn't understand, since Dillon was running fairly well, why they didn't give it to Faulk, or even Evans or Pass more, and why they didn't do the RB screen more often to get them to back off. Our defense should be fine (I hope).