PatsWickedPissah

I'll explain why execution may be indicative of other underlying core problems but first...

1. Had Graham executed by holding onto the ball, an early drive would have continued.
2. Had Gaffney correctly judged the deep ball (similar to 1st year bust Chad Jackson's play) a TD would hav occured. Or at least a gain to the red zone.
3. Had Kevin "what The" Faulk not lost situational awareness and thrown the pass backwards instead of forward, another TD would have occured.

Other lack of execution examples are less straightforward but I believe that our wideouts are not geting free ffom man coverage. Note how close the Miami corners lined up vs our guys 9 yards back, giving the short pass. Brady had no such luxury.

I think that many of the EXECUTION problems are a consequence of lack of talent. Lack of talent at WR to catch the long ball, or to get separation, or to read the blitz and cut the route short in the appropriate time and place. The inability to handle the blitz and fast DEs is another lack of talent issue where the problem gets compounded by forcing a TE to become a OT.

Other execution issues are indicative of poor mental discipline. The numerous offsides and the stupid penalties such as Seymour's roughing calls. Faulk's forward pass was lack of mental discipline as well. Why a formerly disciplined team is now suddenly undisciplined is another deeper question.

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thomas144

I don't understand why Matt Light wasn't getting help blocking Jason Taylor.

It also seems like they don't run the ball enough.

maverick4

I think a symptom of bad coaching and play-calling is an increasing use of the 'poor execution' excuse. If players are not put in positions to succeed, or are too often put in awkward or poorly designed plays, then they will make more mistakes that seem like execution-type errors.

I think McDaniels is too inexperienced as well as unable to cope with non-vanilla defenses, and I also question his 'whiz kid' reputation as an intelligent rising star.

SVN

getting your offense execute at a high level is also a responsibility of the preperation by the coaching staff in practice..they just dont call plays ...as we have read before..charlie used to berate his players when they didnt practice properly.

PatsWickedPissah

It's a talent and a mental desire issue. If you want to 'blame' the coaches for the mental unpreparedness, there's posssibly some merit there.

Coaching is NOT responsible for inability to get open, inability to hold onto the ball, inability to make a NFL calibre reception, inability to focus enough to avoid throwing across the LOS and inability to maintain composure and avoid stomping an opposing player or gratuituosly roughing the passer.

Coaching called the deep pattern that would have been a TD were the wideout capable of reacting to the ball in flight.

Coaching called the flea flicker style TD play that would have been a TD if Faulk had maintained situational awareness. Two TDs, lost because of lack of execution. Couple that with Watson's drop of the long ball before being hit.

Using additional players to help Light and Kacsur removes thos players from offensive threats allowing tighter coverage of less receivers. Dedicating help to an OT removes a blocker for the surprise opposite side or delayed up the middle blitz. There's a finite limit to schemes compensating for lack of superior talent.

This 2006 team lacks the talent of the 2003 and 2004 teams and I'm not just referring to one missing wideout.

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MrBigglesWorth

isn't execution true of any offense? shouldn't the run and shoot work in theory if it's executed?

i think it is the playcalling and sequence of playcalling. in a matter of 3 plays i've seen them go from the spread formation to the power i formation to trips formation. with all the changing in personnel it's no wodner no chemistry is formed.

IMO the OC is suppose to find a defenses weakness and expolit it. supposedly watson was suppose to create mismatches but he's disappeared the past few weeks.

I will admit they do have personnel issues, the offense has been a mess all season long, establishing no continuity or conistency.

Brownfan80

Say what you want of Brady's INTs, but players do not FUMBLE because of a playcall. No matter the playcall once the ball is in your arms the concept is the same. These players (not Brady, the non QB fumbles like Graham's) are fumbling our chances away at an alarming rate.

People blame the playcalls over and over, but fundemental football is what is lacking. If you can't hold onto the damn ball how does it even matter what the playcall is? If our WRs can't catch the ball or get open, how can we judge the routes they're asked to run? If our OL can't pass block or run block, how can we judge the playcalls they've been asked to execute?

The OL issues started last season. Some of us thought that it'd get better with the healthy return of Light and Koppen, but this hasn't happened. It's actually gotten worse as this season has gone along. The OL play is horrid.

The tackles in particular are just getting thrown around like utterly worthless ragdolls far too often.

Does it matter if you run a slant or incut or out-route or hitch-n-go if the OTs are letting pressure get to Brady in 1.5 seconds? No!

The playcalling is being restricted by the horrible execution.

Our WRs are playing horrible, our RBs are average without Maroney in there, our OL is playing horribly in both phases of the offense. And just about every skill position player has fumbled in the past four or five weeks. Go back and recount the fumbles in your head. The only player that I can remember not fumbling this season is Troy Brown. Maroney, Dillon, Caldwell, Watson, Graham, Faulk, Gabriel... they've all had ball security problems!

This offense isn't suffereng from slight chips of bad execution, they're suffering from an epedemic of bad execution. They can't even hold the ball once it's in their hands! We're supposed to believe that in spite of that they can run every route the way their supposed to on time and in position? Please!

Brady is surrounded right now with a ton of players that aren't doing what they're supposed to do when they are supposed to do it. He's getting demolished out there by piss-poor protection and the lack of a good running game. Dillon averaged a good bit of yards, but had to come out so often that we still ended up having to punt when we faced short third downs without him in there.

If this team does nothing in the playoffs it will be because the offensive players couldn't come together and play sound fundamental football. Pee-wee stuff. Catch the ball, don't fumble it when you're tackled. Block the man in front of you. It's really that simple. If they can't do the basics, why are we slamming the OC because they're not doing the more elaborate things?

We need more talent.

Oswlek

I usually refrain from the OC threads, but I'll bite in this one. I have been quick to point out who was inactive or who was new or whatever in an effort to deflect criticism from McDaniels. The longer the season wears on, though, it becomes clearer just how uncoordinated the offense is. There is a distinct lack of rhythym even during their best of games.

Now, that does not mean that I think that McDaniels is "in over his head" or that he should be fired. He's just not as good as Weis. No shame in that, a lot of good coordinators in this league are not as good as Weis is. The problem arises when NE has personnel issues that require good coordination to overcome. McDaniels just isn't there yet. He may never be.

If Josh is here next year, I will give him my full support until he has proven that improvement is just not there. I feel comforable with BB making the right decision about McDaniels' future with NE. Unless, of course, McDaniels is Ken Walter's illegitimate brother or something,

thomas144

"Situational Awareness?" He made a bad pass.

Yes, the talent is not that great. The stock-piling of offensive linemen hasn't quite worked out the way we thought it would. Come to think of it, the stock-piling of Tight Ends hasn't worked out either.

I think they made a tactical decision to let Matt Light try to block Jason Taylor and it didn't work. I think they should have done something about that.

I also think Brady's receivers aren't very good.

MrBigglesWorth

That's assuming it was a double pass. It could've been intended as a pass and reception by brady much like patten did once and brady saw there was nothing so he tried to pass it.