Can we get the 2nd seed? - New England Patriots Forums

carolinatony · 12-01-2006, 07:43 PM

I see the Ravens losing at K.C. and maybe at the Steeles which leaves us with S.D. for the 2nd seed. They have to play K.C,Denver and Seattle so they could lose 1 or 2 more games?
Thank we can do it?

Michigan Dave · 12-01-2006, 07:46 PM

Absolutely. In fact, at this point, I think we're the favorite to pick it up. I like our chances a LOT.

***BelichickFan*** · 12-01-2006, 07:59 PM

If we win out and SD loses two we're in - if they lose one and it's a conference game then we both have 3 conference losses (the first tiebreaker) and I think it goes to common opponents then.

Someone smarter than me can figure that out.

Bottom line, if we only need to gain one game (if we win the tiebreaker), I like our chances. But if we need to gain two games (if SD wins the tiebreaker) then I don't.

The SD-Denver game might be pivotal as that's a common opponent.

From a quick look, I think SD would win the common opponent tiebreaker, though it was a quick look.

Let's root for Buffalo on Sunday as that's a Conference Game for SD and a Common Opponent. Buffalo has won 3 out of 4 since they lost to us, the only loss being by 1 to Indy . . .

GO BILLS

Michigan Dave · 12-01-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BelichickFan

If we win out and SD loses two we're in - if they lose one and it's a conference game then we both have 3 conference losses (the first tiebreaker) and I think it goes to common opponents then.

Someone smarter than me can figure that out.

Bottom line, if we only need to gain one game (if we win the tiebreaker), I like our chances. But if we need to gain two games (if SD wins the tiebreaker) then I don't.

The SD-Denver game might be pivotal as that's a common opponent.

From a quick look, I think SD would win the common opponent tiebreaker, though it was a quick look.

Let's root for Buffalo on Sunday as that's a Conference Game for SD and a Common Opponent. Buffalo has won 3 out of 4 since they lost to us, the only loss being by 1 to Indy . . .

GO BILLS

I thought I read somewhere that we would win the tiebreaker? Maybe not. It's been a long week.

carolinatony · 12-01-2006, 08:11 PM

If........
I still can't believe the Jets beat us. That may hurt us

***BelichickFan*** · 12-01-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Michigan Dave

I thought I read somewhere that we would win the tiebreaker? Maybe not. It's been a long week.

From a quick look, I think we'd lose it. Mostly because we lost to Denver and SD would be either 1-1 or 2-0. Of course, there's more games to go including Buffalo.

Michigan Dave · 12-01-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BelichickFan

From a quick look, I think we'd lose it. Mostly because we lost to Denver and SD would be either 1-1 or 2-0. Of course, there's more games to go including Buffalo.

That makes sense.

Kdo5 · 12-01-2006, 08:29 PM

Maybe but I bet we get the #3 seed.

***BelichickFan*** · 12-01-2006, 08:34 PM

If it comes down to Common Opponents :

SD is 1-0 against Denver, 1-0 against Tenessee. They still have Buffalo and Denver.

That's 2-0 with 2 to go.

We're 2-0 against Buffalo, 0-1 against Denver with Tenessee to go.

I think that's it.

If you assume we beat Tenessee, we're 3-1.
SD would need to sweep their two to be 4-0, a split would be 3-1. Them being swept is 2-2.

I have no idea what the next tiebreaker is.

Of course, conference record is the first tiebreaker, if SD lost one of the above and won out, with us winning us, conference record and common opponents would be tied. Assuming my quick look is correct.

Believe it or not it looks like the innocuous "Strength of Victory" is next. Time to root for AFC East teams, just in case

wistahpatsfan · 12-01-2006, 09:24 PM

What exactly is strength of victory. Is it about the point differential accumulation of all wins? If so, SD must have the upper hand.