The Offense Is fine with one weakness - New England Patriots Forums

***mgteich*** · 11-26-2006, 10:27 PM

The offense is getting better each week. We are strong at QB, TE, RB and OL. We are OK at WR. After all, we can play with two wide receivers, two TE's and a RB. It is our most effective set (especially when used with a no-huddle). There are no real weaknesses. IMHO, this offense is better than any we've ever had. Caldwell and Watson are the go-to guys for Brady. Brown would be, but he has to play defense. Graham being healthy means much better protection for Brady. We don't seem to have depp threat at the moment, but that will come. The talent is there.

The only weakness is at OC. The triple reverse was one of the worst calls I have ever seen in the NFL. The game plan and playcalling in the Indy game were the worst I've seen in a very long time.

And BTW, I am not one to trash any of the coaches. I strongly supported Charlie, and still do. I just wish that bb would have given Tom a bit more support than an inexperienced 29 year old as an OC. He would done better giving the job to his son, or to Charlie's son.

I understand that Charlie and Mangini had to go. We replaced Mangini, and haven't noticed much of a reduction in effectiveness (IMHO). The schemes are different. Hoever, we are 2nd in the league in point allowed and best in the red zone. And I believe we are among the BEST against the run, for the first time under bb.

On the other hand, our offense is most effective when we go into the no-huddle and Tom is in charge; or rather our offense is best when Josh has the least influence.

Remix 6 · 11-26-2006, 10:28 PM

i dont think we get big enough holes for Maroney

could be playcalling/OL play

***BelichickFan*** · 11-26-2006, 10:30 PM

You guys insist on giving NEM material don't you ?

Actually I disagree. I'm fine with McDaniels. He's a little daring for me, there's times I want to run the clock down more that he's throwing but that's a minor thing.

The one weakness is we need another #2 WR. Caldwell has filled the Givens hole. Earlier in the year it looked like Gabriel would give us a second #2 quality WR, as Branch had. However, now we simply don't have that player. Once we do, if we ever get there, we should be set on offense the way the TE and RB are playing.

njpatsfan · 11-26-2006, 10:38 PM

McDaniels is fine.

nem would say the same thing with or without material. He said the exact same insane things about Weiss.

350 yards against the best D in football, and you want to fire the OC over ONE FRICKEN PLAY.

What kind of fans are we ? Yankees fans ?

Christ.

R

shakadave · 11-26-2006, 10:42 PM

There is another glaring weakness: we need to hang on to the freaking ball. Jeezus H Jeezus! Corey, all that matters is that you not fumble on this play. Oops, fumble! Watson, hang on tight --- oops, fumble. Oh it's OK, Reche recovered it. Oops, Reche fumbled. All this after baby Maroney has candy taken from him in the 1st quarter.

To play like that and win, we must surely be the most talented team in the NFL.

***BelichickFan*** · 11-26-2006, 10:46 PM

Well we scored 17 points and were in scoring range 3 more times (at least) that we blew due to stupid turnovers. I guess they were McDaniels' fault. Wait, don't call that play, it'll be completed but we'll fumble so call something else

MrClutch · 11-26-2006, 10:50 PM

I think those turnovers are the weakness in our offense. Turnovers happen but I hate it when it's those tipped balls that leave the ball hanging in the air. That ball that flew out of Watson's hands in to and then out of Caldwells was totally wtf.....

***BelichickFan*** · 11-26-2006, 10:51 PM

Points: Patriots got 17, NFL averages (against Bears) 12.0
Yards : Patriots got 354, NFL averages (against Bears) 252
Yards per pass : Patriots had 8.2, NFL averages (against Bears) 5.34

Yeah, that really sucks.

***BelichickFan*** · 11-26-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrClutch

I think those turnovers are the weakness in our offense. Turnovers happen but I hate it when it's those tipped balls that leave the ball hanging in the air. That ball that flew out of Watson's hands in to and then out of Caldwells was totally wtf.....

Had to be McDaniels' fault . . .

PatsFan-NH · 11-26-2006, 10:54 PM

Does anyone know what Doug Gabriel did or didn't do to become the invisible man ?

On Patriot's Game Day, Steve DeOssie came out and said he was in the dog house, so its no secret, but he didn't give any details.

It can't be that last fumble only. So is he unable to do what they want, or does he have bad Raider habits and attitudes off the field that make him a problem for the team ?

I wish they would get him on the field, cause we need all the help we can get.

I don't think the offense is fine, and its not just about play calling, its about execution. There are still too many 3 and outs and balls that are thrown to nobody, and behind or too low. We won by luck against the Bears. The luck of Assante making those picks, cause he doesn't always.

We can dominate bad or mediocre teams, but with good teams we are still over matched. Not because they have better people, or even plans, but because our execution is erratic. I don't care why the offense is still not clicking on all cylinders, after Thanksgiving they have run out of time.

BB needs to lock TB and the receivers into the practice bubble and not let them out until they have their timing/route issues solved.