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PatsFaninAZ · 11-04-2006, 02:07 PM

I feel differently from most on this. I'll continue to be an AV fan. The reality is that the ball was on his boot in one of the greatest moments in New England sports history in 80 years and he knocked it through. (I understand what some say that the game was tied, but how many of you at the time didn't understand that the kick was very likely for the game? Momentum was totally on the Ram's side. If they had won the flip, it was likely curtains, and even if they didn't I wasn't in love with our chances.)

As for the circumstances under which he left, I don't really understand how we as patriots fans can be too critical. I get some resentment, but not too much. It seems almost like a double standard. The team has famously embraced the proposition that the team is all that matters and there is no room for sentimentality in player decisions. It will do whatever is in its best interest, no exceptions. How can we really get on a guy when he makes a decision in his own interest without sentimentality? It works both ways.

He's a colt now, and I'll root against him. If he comes up with a chance to beat the Pats, of course I'll root for him to shank it and cheer if he does. (But he won't.) Nevertheless, I'll always be an AV fan.

kurtinelson · 11-04-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Halifax_Pats_Fan

Hey gang, just wanted to get your sentiments on Adam coming back....

I think this photo sums up my thoughts on AV.

***MoLewisrocks*** · 11-04-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFaninAZ

I feel differently from most on this. I'll continue to be an AV fan. The reality is that the ball was on his boot in one of the greatest moments in New England sports history in 80 years and he knocked it through. (I understand what some say that the game was tied, but how many of you at the time didn't understand that the kick was very likely for the game? Momentum was totally on the Ram's side. If they had won the flip, it was likely curtains, and even if they didn't I wasn't in love with our chances.)

As for the circumstances under which he left, I don't really understand how we as patriots fans can be too critical. I get some resentment, but not too much. It seems almost like a double standard. The team has famously embraced the proposition that the team is all that matters and there is no room for sentimentality in player decisions. It will do whatever is in its best interest, no exceptions. How can we really get on a guy when he makes a decision in his own interest without sentimentality? It works both ways.

He's a colt now, and I'll root against him. If he comes up with a chance to beat the Pats, of course I'll root for him to shank it and cheer if he does. (But he won't.) Nevertheless, I'll always be an AV fan.

Most here, perhaps - although it's only a very vocal minority who have expressed blind animosity even here. All the local media polls this week indicate he will get a warm welcome - 60% or so saying they will cheer and the other 40% split between booing and no strong opinion either way. I think he left because he did feel disrespected and it's human nature to want to be wanted. They were all too willing to pay - only as you go.

I hope he makes all his kicks this season, and it just doesn't matter because they still don't have a playoff caliber defense and their HOF #'s QB comes up small in the big games.

Keegs · 11-04-2006, 05:35 PM

I hope he Breaks his leg and never plays again.
I would have a good laugh at that one.

TheBostonStraggler · 11-04-2006, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie55

I'll be at the game. I'll cheer him the first time to show him appreciation for what he did here, but from there on out the money-grubbing-whore gets booed.

Amen to that! An obligatory pre-game cheer then it's over. He wears the hated Colts uniform now. He is part of the Polian brigade and that's low on the food chain inho. I don't want to see Adam or anyone get hurt, however, I do wish Adam many hook lefts, blocks and short kickoffs from here on out.

TheBostonStraggler · 11-04-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cstjohn17

I agree with JJ.

But in all honesty I wish the Pats had fanchised him, the difference between Ghost and AV has not been a factor for the Patriots but his arrival at Indy has made a difference. Besides any mental edge he may give Indy in close games his 12 for 12 is one of the reasons they are 7-0, 4 games won by 5 points or less. If it was my decision I would have franchised him and used the 4th rounds picks on a LB. But the past is the past, he made his bed now he can go pad his stats and lose in the play-offs every year until he retires.

Sun 9/10 at NY Giants W 26-21
Sun 9/17 Houston W 43-24
Sun 9/24 Jacksonville W 21-14
Sun 10/1 at NY Jets W 31-28
Sun 10/8 Tennessee W 14-13
bye
Sun 10/22 Washington W 36-22
Sun 10/29 at Denver W 34-31

I disagree. Indy has had one of the most accurate kicker, VanderJerk, in the past few years. AV is not making the difference right now. VanderJerk was pretty solid for them in the regular season. Where AV may end up being the difference is in the playoffs where VanderJerk was less than his regular season near automatic self.

***fgssand*** · 11-04-2006, 08:01 PM

Man this is a tough one....the raider game kick, Superbowl tie breaking / winning kicks. All 28 or so of those fourth quarter kicks he has made in a row or some such awesome stat.

He NEVER should have left though and the way he left really sucks. maybe ownership can share the blame of him leaving for sure, but, at the end of the day - he choose to turn his back on all the devoted fans of New England. I cannot forgive him for leaving for such a small difference in salary.

The greedy little SOB could never get over being franchised and I really have a hard time with that.

Soooooo F him and I have a hunch he will re-injure himself trying to reach the goal line on his kickoffs after he sees what kind of a leg Gostowski has.

In the long run NE will be better off with a young and upcoming rookie with all kinds of upside.

AV;s better days are certainly behind him and the Gostkowski has just begun.