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sieglo · 10-31-2006, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SVN

i dislike the colts but if manning doesnt go the hall then so shouldnt marino...if he just plays 5 yrs he is going to break all statistical records....there may be reasons to dislike him but he is a great player ..just stating my opinion

Let's wait until he plays those five years out and then see.

Manning could melt down like Kurt Warner for all you know -- if say Harrison and Wayne left for some reason. Or he could get injured, etc.

sarge · 10-31-2006, 07:22 AM

Gentleman, a little realisty for a minute.

I know people love using the phrase let's not put him in Canton yet.

But in all reality, both Manning and Brady's spots are being cleaned and prepped as we speak!

ironwasp · 10-31-2006, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sieglo

Let's wait until he plays those five years out and then see.

Manning could melt down like Kurt Warner for all you know -- if say Harrison and Wayne left for some reason. Or he could get injured, etc.

If he melts down now, he goes to Canton anyway. His career to date is more than enough in my opinion to see him in the Hall, probably on a first ballot.

***cstjohn17*** · 10-31-2006, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by desi-patsfan

Ok i am not a great fan of Manning, but he will EASILY make it into the hall of fame. He will surpass almost every passing record.

Exactly.

Manning is a first ballot Hall of Famer, so is Brady, otherwise they should not even have a HOF.

SVN · 10-31-2006, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sieglo

Let's wait until he plays those five years out and then see.

Manning could melt down like Kurt Warner for all you know -- if say Harrison and Wayne left for some reason. Or he could get injured, etc.

sure ..can happen to anyone, hypothetically can happen to brady too...lets give him props for what he has done...heck...this game against the colts this week is a game simply because of him , no one else on the colts really makes this matchup as competitive...

***BelichickFan*** · 10-31-2006, 07:31 AM

Two great teams, clearly. I'll be surprised if the Colts win though. Our pass defense is a little suspect but pretty good especially as we don't play man to man too much against the Colts. But with our passing game coming on and the difference in running games (combining offense and defense), I really think we're just the better team right now.

PatsChick87 · 10-31-2006, 07:35 AM

Hey Ryan, getting back on track.....I think that it'll be another great game between these two teams. I also think that Manning might be a tad dirtier come the 4th quarter, than he was in Denver, as he gets reacquainted with Green,Warren,Rosie et all. Somehow I doubt that Reggie Wayne will feel quite so lonely during his routes as he did last Sun!
Hope you enjoy the game, and see you on the flip side!

***Dragda*** · 10-31-2006, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sieglo

To paraphrase Parcells, I think it's a little premature to start moving Manning to Canton.

Compare him to Bledsoe as a prolific passer. Will Manning surpass Bledsoe's gaudy numbers? Maybe. Will Bledsoe make it to the Hall? Doubtful. If Manning can't win the big game and he doesn't exceed Bledsoe's numbers, he won't see the Hall either.

Manning could retire in the middle of next week's game and still make the Hall.

Fogbuster · 10-31-2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragda

Manning could retire in the middle of next week's game and still make the Hall.

As far as I'm concerned, I couldn't care less if Peyton gets into the Hall. What I care about is the Patriots winning. If Peyton breaks every record in the books -- and adds NEW records that haven't even been thought of yet -- I say, good for him.

But if the Patriots keep winning championships, setting the bar for team results in an era when the gods of individual stats run so rampant, I'll be a happy camper.

As far as I'm concerned BB, Pioli, and company have injected some sanity in the modern NFL game, and that's a lasting contribution, far more important than any number of gaudy individual stats.

A great player may be great -- and good for him -- but that's only one man out of 54. To consistently put together a great team requires a higher level of genius. Btw, Red Auerbach exemplified that in his day with the Celts, may he rest in peace.

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***Michael*** · 10-31-2006, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragda

Manning could retire in the middle of next week's game and still make the Hall.

Yes, he'll make the hall for largest body of annoying commercials. But, maybe hanging it up this year isn't such a bad idea. He's had 9 years. He's tried but, just can't play under real pressure. Perhaps it's time to pass the torch to Eli and be put out to pasture.