Mike Vick - New England Patriots Forums

mcsully · 10-22-2006, 05:25 PM

Few days ago noticed some slanted views towards M. Vick after his recent comments on HBO. But gotta give the guy credit today. Looked sharp against a strong defense and was able to have a career day..
Seemed like the coaching staff allowed him to play and he showed them something..

Now the real question.. Can he be consistant..

MrClutch · 10-22-2006, 05:27 PM

Steelers just imploded. They turned it over 3 times for 21 points and gave the Falcons good field position each time.

Remix 6 · 10-22-2006, 05:29 PM

i think too many people criticize him for nothing.

1. Do people realize he just wins games? Hes got a good winning % so why do people have to pick on him..thats what u want your QB to do..win. not post stats..as long as he wins

2. The coaches have tried to limit him a little..saying "lets try this lets try that", let him get comforatble with what he wants to do. Hes got an unbelievable arm and athletism..u cant take that away from him

as long as he wins..people shouldnt be saying "hes a bad QB" they could do a lot worse with a decent QB without the athletism

i think Vick is a great PLAYER. if you consider a QB a guy who can consistently pass for X amount of yards and accuracy..then maybe hes not a good QB. But if your like me and consider a good QB a guy who can lead your team to victories..then hes a solid 1 imo

mcsully · 10-22-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MrClutch

Steelers just imploded. They turned it over 3 times for 21 points and gave the Falcons good field position each time.

Still put up the 7 points instead of 3.. Gotta give him credit for doing the job..

Ahriman · 10-22-2006, 05:35 PM

Vick is a unique player who can be deadly if the coaches play to his strengths. With that said, the follow comment is absurd:

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Originally Posted by Remix 6

i think too many people criticize him for nothing.

1. Do people realize he just wins games? Hes got a good winning % so why do people have to pick on him..thats what u want your QB to do..win. not post stats..as long as he wins

Do YOU realize, as Boomer pointed out today, that since Vick signed his uber contract (3 years ago), his record as a starting QB is 11-10? That doesn't really sound like someone who "just wins games". Face it, the guy has been an average QB in this league over the last three years. Granted, the system he's been in is partly to blame but let's not pretend he's playing like something that he's clearly not.

MrClutch · 10-22-2006, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mcsully

Still put up the 7 points instead of 3.. Gotta give him credit for doing the job..

That's true but I still think Vick is a great athlete just not A great QB. As mobile as Vick is, he still got sacked 7 times by the Giants. He has trouble reading defenses at times.

Remix 6 · 10-22-2006, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahriman

Vick is a unique player who can be deadly if the coaches play to his strengths. With that said, the follow comment is absurd:

Do YOU realize, as Boomer pointed out today, that since Vick signed his uber contract (3 years ago), his record as a starting QB is 11-10? That doesn't really sound like someone who "just wins games". Face it, the guy has been an average QB in this league over the last three years. Granted, the system he's been in is partly to blame but let's not pretend he's playing like something that he's clearly not.

you pay contracts to players who win games for you. Vick that guy. you dont pay. his record isnt 11-10 as a starter..check again. without him their record has been a lot worse..negative in win-loss percantage compared to him starting. getting 900 yards rushing while also being able to throw is a major weapon. i watched the Giants game and his WRs dropped like 4 easily catchable balls..hes not as bad a thrower as people say he is

njpatsfan · 10-22-2006, 06:22 PM

Blah blah blah ... athletic .... blah blah blah .... exciting ....

The "just win" spin is a new one .... for a QB that went 8-8 last season. And who has a QB rating around room temperature, is a 50% passer, and who barely has more TDs than INTs.

The national media does enough ball-washing and excuse-making for him. No need for any more in this forum.

R

SVN · 10-22-2006, 06:35 PM

its just going to be the natural overreaction after he throws 4TD's that the o coordinator "heard" him etc etc...thats not true..vick is an overrated QB ..exciting but overrated..

***cstjohn17*** · 10-22-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Remix 6

i think too many people criticize him for nothing.

1. Do people realize he just wins games? Hes got a good winning % so why do people have to pick on him..thats what u want your QB to do..win. not post stats..as long as he wins

2. The coaches have tried to limit him a little..saying "lets try this lets try that", let him get comforatble with what he wants to do. Hes got an unbelievable arm and athletism..u cant take that away from him

as long as he wins..people shouldnt be saying "hes a bad QB" they could do a lot worse with a decent QB without the athletism

i think Vick is a great PLAYER. if you consider a QB a guy who can consistently pass for X amount of yards and accuracy..then maybe hes not a good QB. But if your like me and consider a good QB a guy who can lead your team to victories..then hes a solid 1 imo

I agree, winning is what matters. I don't think he plays a style that can win a Superbowl but leaving the style out of the equation the kid wins over 62% of his games. But still he is no Tom Brady!