Originally Posted by Brownfan80
Could we stop with this stupid comparisons? Jesus. Branch is in an offense with TWO established and productive vets over him to take pressure off of him in the passing offense.
Our new WRs are part of an 80% overhaul. They should not have the same expectations as the players that left here for more money. Compare Gabriel or Caldwell to Givens, I don't see many people doing THAT. Why? Because then they wouldn't have any reasons to complain about our WR production.
Branch went to a very good team with a passing attack that was already SB worthy. And you expect him NOT to produce??
They're paying him alot of money and gave up a 1st rounder. We're complaining that he's producing about the same amount as our cheap subsitutes? Wtf??
I just want to be very clear about a couple of things.
1) I am no Randy Moss fan. But, I wasn't a big Corey Dillon before he got here, either...
2) I am NOT comparing Deion Branch to our group. I'm just saying look at how quickly he ramped up.
Brown80, you said, "Branch went to a very good team with a passing attack that was already SB worthy. And you expect him NOT to produce??" and I agree with you.
But, I think we are also a very good team with the best QB in the NFL and also Super Bowl worthy, so why wouldn't the same be true here?
Ultimately, my hope - my wish list, if you will - is that:
a) Chad Jackson realizes his potential sooner than later
b) Doug Gabriel plays above his ceiling (ala David Patten when he was here)
c) Reche Caldwell continues to repair his career (because I personally think he has done a good job here, so far, given his limited natural gifts...)
d) Troy Brown just keeps being Troy Brown...an anchor on this team!
e) Jabar Gaffney becomes a very serviceable WR...
f) Ben Watson finds a way to overcome the double teams being thrown at him because teams don't really fear our wideouts...
g) The whole recieving corps comes out of the bye week having found some elusive "zone" and start firing off with Brady...
But that's a lot of "hoping", isn't it?
I find it hard to argue the contention that we just need more talent at WR.
Even if it's just one guy.
I think Belichick & Pioli were dead-on in standing up to that punk Branch, but they must realize our talent level dipped when he left.
Which is not to say our group sucks. Not at all. I think they will emerge as a decent group by the time we get to the finish line.
And I am not even sure Moss is the answer, but in terms of pure talent, he certainly is an upgrade over eveything we've got right now, isn't he?
Even if all my other wish list items above come true, we're still better with Moss than without him, aren't we?
Just some thoughts for discussion. Certainly not trying to contribute to the "drive for a million" Moss & Porter posts!