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Old 10-10-2006, 04:09 PM   #1
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Have you noticed how many "pulled hamstrings" injuries there have been?

During the bye, when the seasonal performance is being reviewed, maybe these coaches need to review some of thier methods.

Firstly, it seems apparent that a new longer and more cautious set of "warm-up" hamstring stretching exercises should be introduced.

Secondly, it seems that maybe a revised set of weight lifting exercises that emphasize hamstring flexibility as well as explosion type exercises might be needed. It doesn't do much good to have great explosion in the hamstrings if that leads to pulls and the player ends up spending games in the tub and not on the field.

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Old 10-10-2006, 04:27 PM   #2
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Have you noticed how many "pulled hamstrings" injuries there have been?

During the bye, when the seasonal performance is being reviewed, maybe these coaches need to review some of thier methods.

Firstly, it seems apparent that a new longer and more cautious set of "warm-up" hamstring stretching exercises should be introduced.

Secondly, it seems that maybe a revised set of weight lifting exercises that emphasize hamstring flexibility as well as explosion type exercises might be needed. It doesn't do much good to have great explosion in the hamstrings if that leads to pulls and the player ends up spending games in the tub and not on the field.

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Old 10-10-2006, 04:40 PM   #3
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I think you're getting too analytical here. We don't know what Mike, Herold, and the trainers do, we don't know how these guys got injured, we don't know what their specific injuries are, and we don't know how severe the injuries are or when they were suffered.

We're just far too outside "the loop" to speculate on the specific exercises the players are doing.
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I don't know anything about conditioning and hamstring pulls but this comes up all the time. Sometimes things just happen, there doesn't always have to be someone to blame. Our S&C guy is supposed to be one of the best in the business.
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Hey Everyone it's the annual guys-are-getting-injured-it-must-be-the-strength-and-conditioning-coaches'-fault post!

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Have you noticed how many "pulled hamstrings" injuries there have been?

During the bye, when the seasonal performance is being reviewed, maybe these coaches need to review some of thier methods.

Firstly, it seems apparent that a new longer and more cautious set of "warm-up" hamstring stretching exercises should be introduced.

Secondly, it seems that maybe a revised set of weight lifting exercises that emphasize hamstring flexibility as well as explosion type exercises might be needed. It doesn't do much good to have great explosion in the hamstrings if that leads to pulls and the player ends up spending games in the tub and not on the field.

Do y'all agree???
I think you're looking at the wrong problem. It's not just the Pats, ALL the teams are having problems with hamstring injuries lately.

You should be concentrating on all those broken bones we've been having lately! What's up with that!? There must be exercises to strengthen all those flimsy bones in the wrists, arms and legs that our guys have been breaking the last couple of years right? It doesn't do to go out on the field and snap them flimsy bones left and right after all that weightlifting, must be the weights are too heavy. They should cut back on that to allow those weak bones to get stronger. Minimal weights, lots of milk, that'll fix everything.
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Hey Everyone it's the annual guys-are-getting-injured-it-must-be-the-strength-and-conditioning-coaches'-fault post!
Shhhh... that means the we-must-switch-to-a-4-3-defense posts are right around the corner.
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Don't you guys think that Wright and Green should be on the field more? I would much rather have one of them out there than TBC or Seau.
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Have you noticed how many "pulled hamstrings" injuries there have been?

During the bye, when the seasonal performance is being reviewed, maybe these coaches need to review some of thier methods.

Firstly, it seems apparent that a new longer and more cautious set of "warm-up" hamstring stretching exercises should be introduced.

Secondly, it seems that maybe a revised set of weight lifting exercises that emphasize hamstring flexibility as well as explosion type exercises might be needed. It doesn't do much good to have great explosion in the hamstrings if that leads to pulls and the player ends up spending games in the tub and not on the field.

Do y'all agree???
First, not to be mean, but don't accuse coaches of not knowing what their doing unless you are better educated on the subject. Most hamstring injuries occur when the knee is flexed, and there is a change of postion. That means the hamstring is actually on slack. So what would a flexibility program do for a hamstring that is shortened and not stretched to the extreme. The strain actually occurs because the muscle is trying to decelerate the knee as it flexes and then extend during the cut. The purpose of plyometrics (explosion exercises) is to prepare the proprioception of the muscle to accept the load of the body weight and then recoil on the cut. This trains the body to react in the situation. Lifting weights and stretching will actually cause more hamstring strains. I could discuss this for awhile, and bore you, but the trainers and coaches know what they are doing. Injuries will occur no matter what, and if you look at the Strength coaches track record in the example of Willie McGuinest. It seems his program straightened out this player that was out every year with a hamstring or adductor strain.
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Weren't their threads last year about Mike Woicik, who is considered the best in the business? There is a tendency for a lot of WR's to have hamstring problems and it seem that the problems are only coincidental.

Earlier in the year, Josh Miller was interviewed and talked about Woicik, he claimed he was the best he had ever seen and personally felt that he and the staff here added 5 years to his career. Have read this before, so before we blame training staff have to ask if BB had someone on his staff who was impeding the players getting on the field would he keep them?? I can never believe that BB does not stay on top of or control anything that goes on in this franchise.

OTOH look at Rodney Harrison, he is back on the field and playing as well as he did prior to the injury. Dan Koppen has recovered.. on and on injuries are part of the game and to blame anyone person begs the issue.
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