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Richter · 08-23-2006, 11:43 AM

The point of removing a long run is to eliminate huge deviations from the norm. Especially in the case where you have a long, untouched run, that is purely a product of blocking. It's not saying that the guy can't rip off a run like that, it just illustrates a point that he's not doing much else, and how much of an unusual event that run was in comparison to the average body of work.

Ochmed Jones · 08-23-2006, 12:54 PM

In the Saints Cowboy game, Bush tried his stop and go out on Ware. It didn't work. Ware grabbed him and tossed him to the ground. Then talked some smack to the rookie.
I think that's probably the first taste of what's to come for Mr. Bush.

PS: I loved to see Bush use that stop and go on a freak like Merriman.

JoeSixPat · 08-23-2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hobbsownscoles

Hows he doing?

I heard he's trying to get an endorsement deal from a chain of sandwich shops.

arrellbee · 08-23-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scott99

Why does everyone try to take away long runs. If Bush doesn't have that 44 yard run his average is 2.8, blah blah blah.....Their stats are their stats, period. Imagine if Maroney runs 20 times for 150 yards (7.5ypc), but has a 90 yard run, "well you take away his 90 yarder and his average is only 3 yards per carry", well.....ya can't take away the 90 yarder.

Well, as has been discussed by other posters, what you are interested in is how 'productive' a back is, or better yet, what contribution he is making toward the team winning. There is, of course, no way to carve 'statistics' to tell you the answer to that in black and white - which is part of what you are questioning.

However, to show why it might be important to consider more than just a simple yards per carry average, consider the following:

Suppose a RB carries 10 times each time gaining 2.5 yards. Then he has an eleventh carry for 41 yards. If you take a strict average, you get 5.5 yards per carry which most folks would rate as a top RB. However, in terms of helping the team, those 10 carries for 2.5 yards probably put his team into difficult situations to make first downs and continue a number of drives. The one time that he got 41 yards certainly got 1 first down but in and of itself may not even have helped the team sustain a long drive for a score.

This is why statistics provide only a certain amount of information as to judging productivity and why you really have to take into account other aspects of a player's performance.