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The pats draft fro 2007 is shaping up to be a pretty good one from a picking standpoint.
The Patriots have all of their 7 selections plus ones coming to them for Ross Tucker, (estimate 7th), and Now Brandon Gorin, (estimate 6th).
In addition they have compensatory picks coming for three players Givens, (estimated 3rd plus maybe a 7th), and for Adam Vinatieri (estimated 5th but possibly a 4th), and for Ashworth (estimated 5th or 6th) Willie was released so he doesn't qualify, else we'd have another 3rd.
But to summarize the Patriots 2007 draft currently appears to be:
1, 2, 3,3, 4, 5,5,5, 6,6 and 7,7,7 for a total of 13 picks just one shy of a full "Double Draft".
The question is what to do with them? Is there room on the roster or are we going to merely restock the League with our cuts?
The Patriots have been unable to position themselves for a good LB and haven't been in the position to draft the college CBs that the scouts predict will be the next "shutdown" corner. Derrick Williams went at 13, AJ Hawk in the top eight, and Carpenter and Greenway were gone by 18. So were Merriman and Ware the year before.
Packaging a 1st (#32) and a second round pick (#64) might merely move us up to around #20. Can you get the LB or CB you want there? They couldn't the last two years, when they drafted at around twenty.
The great LBs seem to be available in Rounds 1, picks 1-15, and good ones into round 2; The sure fire CBs seem to be top ten picks, but good ones can be gotten through the top three rounds. Premium Safeties can be found in Rounds 2 through 4. I would think that the Pats will draft defenders, LB &/or CB high with a couple of picks; a single first day pick probably a two, on a WR (to replace Troy), and then BPA the rest of the way.
It just doesn't seem there are all that many older players that need replacing and there is plenty of cap money to prevent many of the FAs from walking.
Is this the big packaging year? Would BB ever package his entire draft for a top five player, like Mike Ditka did? is there any available this year that might even interest him? The team has the picks to spend.
What about a blockbuster trade for a pro bowl LB or shutdown CB in his prime? BB did do that once before. Was the Colvin experiment worth it? Similarly, if they went after a FA, they have the big dollars available.
Any draftniks have a view?
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Pats will reload on D just like they loaded up on offense this year. After reloading on D they will make another long run. Not that I am counting them out for this year, but I think that's management's plan.
I don't think Belichick or Pioli has a clue right now. They're just accruing value. It could be to trade up, trade into 2008, trade for a WR or LB tomorrow - they're accumulating wealth and will spend it when they see value.
The pats draft fro 2007 is shaping up to be a pretty good one from a picking standpoint.
The Patriots have all of their 7 selections plus ones coming to them for Ross Tucker, (estimate 7th), and Now Brandon Gorin, (estimate 6th).
In addition they have compensatory picks coming for three players Givens, (estimated 3rd plus maybe a 7th), and for Adam Vinatieri (estimated 5th but possibly a 4th), and for Ashworth (estimated 5th or 6th) Willie was released so he doesn't qualify, else we'd have another 3rd.
But to summarize the Patriots 2007 draft currently appears to be:
1, 2, 3,3, 4, 5,5,5, 6,6 and 7,7,7 for a total of 13 picks just one shy of a full "Double Draft".
The question is what to do with them? Is there room on the roster or are we going to merely restock the League with our cuts?
The Patriots have been unable to position themselves for a good LB and haven't been in the position to draft the college CBs that the scouts predict will be the next "shutdown" corner. Derrick Williams went at 13, AJ Hawk in the top eight, and Carpenter and Greenway were gone by 18. So were Merriman and Ware the year before.
Packaging a 1st (#32) and a second round pick (#64) might merely move us up to around #20. Can you get the LB or CB you want there? They couldn't the last two years, when they drafted at around twenty.
The great LBs seem to be available in Rounds 1, picks 1-15, and good ones into round 2; The sure fire CBs seem to be top ten picks, but good ones can be gotten through the top three rounds. Premium Safeties can be found in Rounds 2 through 4. I would think that the Pats will draft defenders, LB &/or CB high with a couple of picks; a single first day pick probably a two, on a WR (to replace Troy), and then BPA the rest of the way.
It just doesn't seem there are all that many older players that need replacing and there is plenty of cap money to prevent many of the FAs from walking.
Is this the big packaging year? Would BB ever package his entire draft for a top five player, like Mike Ditka did? is there any available this year that might even interest him? The team has the picks to spend.
What about a blockbuster trade for a pro bowl LB or shutdown CB in his prime? BB did do that once before. Was the Colvin experiment worth it? Similarly, if they went after a FA, they have the big dollars available.
Any draftniks have a view?
Could this have anything to do with our surplus cap space?
Last edited by The Gr8est; 12-03-2005 at 01:48 PM..
The pats draft fro 2007 is shaping up to be a pretty good one from a picking standpoint.
The Patriots have all of their 7 selections plus ones coming to them for Ross Tucker, (estimate 7th), and Now Brandon Gorin, (estimate 6th).
In addition they have compensatory picks coming for three players Givens, (estimated 3rd plus maybe a 7th), and for Adam Vinatieri (estimated 5th but possibly a 4th), and for Ashworth (estimated 5th or 6th) Willie was released so he doesn't qualify, else we'd have another 3rd.
But to summarize the Patriots 2007 draft currently appears to be:
1, 2, 3,3, 4, 5,5,5, 6,6 and 7,7,7 for a total of 13 picks just one shy of a full "Double Draft".
The Patriots will have 4 compensation picks. They will be for Givens, Ashworth, Andre Davis, and Vinatieri. And its primarily based on the contracts that they signed. Also, you can NOT receive 2 compensation picks for the same player.
Givens is more likely a 4th rounder, not a 3rd, because the cut off, previously, has been over 5 million.
Vinatieri and Ashworth will probably net 6th rounders and Davis a 7th.
The question is what to do with them? Is there room on the roster or are we going to merely restock the League with our cuts?
The Patriots have been unable to position themselves for a good LB and haven't been in the position to draft the college CBs that the scouts predict will be the next "shutdown" corner. Derrick Williams went at 13, AJ Hawk in the top eight, and Carpenter and Greenway were gone by 18. So were Merriman and Ware the year before.
Who is Derrick Williams? Are you referring to Tye Hill?
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Originally Posted by AzPatsFan
Packaging a 1st (#32) and a second round pick (#64) might merely move us up to around #20. Can you get the LB or CB you want there? They couldn't the last two years, when they drafted at around twenty.
The great LBs seem to be available in Rounds 1, picks 1-15, and good ones into round 2; The sure fire CBs seem to be top ten picks, but good ones can be gotten through the top three rounds. Premium Safeties can be found in Rounds 2 through 4. I would think that the Pats will draft defenders, LB &/or CB high with a couple of picks; a single first day pick probably a two, on a WR (to replace Troy), and then BPA the rest of the way.
There were good LBs available for the Patriots this year, but they chose to go with a RB and WR instead in the early rounds because they felt those two players were the better value.
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Originally Posted by AzPatsFan
It just doesn't seem there are all that many older players that need replacing and there is plenty of cap money to prevent many of the FAs from walking.
Is this the big packaging year? Would BB ever package his entire draft for a top five player, like Mike Ditka did? is there any available this year that might even interest him? The team has the picks to spend.
There should be a few good LBs available in the 1st round this year. From Posluszny to Gaines Adams (who plays DE/OLB for Clemson in their "BANDIT" role)
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Originally Posted by AzPatsFan
What about a blockbuster trade for a pro bowl LB or shutdown CB in his prime? BB did do that once before. Was the Colvin experiment worth it? Similarly, if they went after a FA, they have the big dollars available.
Any draftniks have a view?
Its a matter of finding a player whom Belichick feels he can mold into what the Pats need for an LB. Not a matter of finding one with talent. Both in free agency and in the draft.
Wow, draft time already and we haven't even started the season. In order for us to have an even better draft next year we can actually just go 1-15 and then not have to package draft picks to get to the top of the first round! yahoo... boo hoo...
Wow, draft time already and we haven't even started the season. In order for us to have an even better draft next year we can actually just go 1-15 and then not have to package draft picks to get to the top of the first round! yahoo... boo hoo...
Please don't get the 1st pick, BB & Pioli will pull a 2004 and draft Adrian Peterson, when we already have Maroney, ala Watson/Graham in 2004.
The upcoming Double Draft
In order for us to have an even better draft next year we can actually just go 1-15 and then not have to package draft picks to get to the top of the first round! yahoo... boo hoo... 
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