mikey

http://www.sportsmemo.com/handicappers/jk/articles/768/

I just don't understand it.

We have our "Joe Montana" is his prime and we are taking a step back??

We are getting rid of John Taylor and Jerry Rice??

In a few more years, Brady will be in his 30's.

In a few more years, Big Ben will be older and better.

In a few more years, Carson Palmer will be in the prime of his career.

Our best chance to win our 4th Lombardi is NOW.

What are we saving our millions cap space for?? Matt Cassell?

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Clonamery

Deja vu, all over again......

PatsRI

Again?????????????????????

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patsfan13

Well he lists Sullivan as a key addition, and Bethel J as a key loss, this shows he is clueless. Also Fauria is listed as a key loss. IS anyone worried about replacing Fauria as the #3 TE with Thomas/Mills?

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14thDragon

Round and round it goes, when it stops, no one knows.

And FYI, in a few years Carson Palmer will be 30.

And Maroney, which I deeply regret being poo-pooing that pick, adds a good 2 years to Tom Brady's prime.

italian pat patriot

again, as usual...

no surprise anymore

who cares ?

maverick4

Mikey, you don't know your history at all.

Jerry Rice was drafted after Montana already won 2 superbowls.

If anybody is Jerry Rice, it would be CHAD JACKSON. The timing is almost eerily perfect to parallel the drafting of Rice for Montana.

Deion and Brown are like Dwight Clark and Solomon.

sarge

He also says TBC and Montie Beisel will battle it out for the left outside linebacker position.

Has Beisel had a single rep at outside linebacker????

PatsFanInVa

Okay, this post is clueless chicken-littlism... I see no problem with questioning the approach at any given time, but the "have they lost their minds?"/"What is going on??? My GOD??!?!??!?" approach is just silly.

You have a team that incurred the same reaction by:

1) Benching (then releasing) The Franchise (Bledsoe)
2) Discarding "The Heart and Soul of this Defense" (Law), resulting in a situation in which "This team hates its coach."
3) "falling apart" in 2002 after the first SB, because too many key pieces of the puzzle were gone
4) Trading for a "known discontent" (Corey Dillon)
5) Losing their best defensive back (Law)....

And so on, and so on, and so on.

Regardless of the year, there is a reason that the Pats "will never win another SB." This year, the problems are at LB and wideout, and you call the defensive backfield as you see it. I think it's okay but not stellar.

I've questioned things and joked around about it before, and I even said hey, maybe BB/SP will look back and say "you know, we really did underestimate the effect of the new CBA on our value chart." But it might also be they're thinking, dammit, this guy this guy and this guy are NOT worth that much to us, and this guy and this guy who are undervalued can be groomed, plus this guy and this guy elsewhere will be available next year... you get the picture.

When we go to sleep at night, most of us dream of the usual things... being pursued by witches waving court papers or giant staplers from work, or of course the always popular dimly remembered alien operating theater. Well, BB and SP don't. They dream about Xs and Os and depth charts, and then have their sleep monitored, their brainwaves translated, the translations fed through a room full of cray supercomputers, and the digested de-symbolized football content made ready for them as a report in the morning. They break down game film more intently than we stare at Monty Beisel's wife. More intently than HE stares at her.

Sometimes I see a post like this and I get the impression that because this is a hobby to us, we think it's a hobby to them. (BB/SP). Well, it's not. Sometimes we might not "get" the Pats' actions, and sometimes, they just make wrong reads (I am pretty sure.) But if it were as simple as "the future is NOW... there IS NO NEXT YEAR... oh my God Rothlisburgher might actually have a 2-touchdown game this year..." then NFL personnel would be a pretty simple business. You'd just pay everybody what they asked plus a nice 10% bonus so nobody else has a shot, and then the team that did that most would win the Super Bowl every year.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you your 10-year Super Bowl Dynasty, Washington Redskins.

It ain't that easy... which should mean to us, when things look bad, it's probably more nuanced than "TIME TO HIT THE PANIC BUTTON!!!"

Your reasoning about Big Ben and Palmer is the silliest thing in here. Those guys ain't going away, but I'm pretty sure when Brady came out of nowhere, there was a guy bumping around rewriting all the record books, named Peyton Manning.

Do you even GET what the Pats have accomplished through the rest of this decade, already??? The single best QB, and the single best DL in the game, are Patriots for this decade (at least.) One of the better DLs in the league, with a great deal of depth, locked down at least for the short term. One of the better backs in the league all set to retire a Patriot from the looks of things, and BONDING WITH -- not fighting with -- one of the more promising draftee running backs. And special bonus, right when our change-of-pace, utility-back is starting to get long in the tooth, "hey mom, look what I found!" -- Patrick Cobbs.

The fact that the Pats are in the middle of a youth movement AND are driving seriously in the direction of the super bowl again is proof that these guys are accomplishing a lot more than you give them credit for, and that the approach has bonuses you just don't "get."

I'm not one of those guys saying this is the best Pats team to have taken the field ever, or some crap like that. I see it as a team with problems. But it's also a team with a shot.... I guess what I am saying is...

Dude, stop being a panicky little baywatch. (I think that's the phrase. I can't keep up with kids these days and their retro TV references...)

PFnV

AndyJohnson

Fortunately someone who knows football IS building a team around Tom Brady.
Lets review for the slow.

RB. Traded for an elite RB in 2004, and won a SB, giving 'the franchise' a strong rb to open the passing game. Drafted RB #1 as soon as the elite RB show signs of wear and tear.

OL. Locked up the LT that has protected him his entire career to a long term deal in 2004. Drafted 2 backups plans at LT in 2005, both of whom are/will be starters at other positions. Resigned Neal. Drafted 2 more OL this year.

TE. Drafted a receiving TE #1 in 2004 to go along with the previous #1. Drafted another receiving TE in the 3rd this year. Drafted another receiving TE, who may be a FB or Hback in the 4th.

WR. REPLACED the 7th round draft choice that may well have been successful BECAUSE of Brady with arguably the best WR in the draft, who is an immense upgrade in physical skills over Givens. Added another WR in FA who is starting caliber, and no telling what he can do with Brady throwing to him.
When Brady became the starter, the WRs were Troy Brown, David Patten, Charles Johnson, and Fred Coleman.
They are now Branch, Caldwell, Jackson, Brown.

The offense since Brady first started has done the following:

LT- Same, with better depth
LG- First round pick
C- 4th round pick
RG- Developed a started, and drafted depth.
RT- Developed a starter and drafted depth.
WR- See above
TE. Went from Rod Rutldege and Jermaine Wiggins to 2 #1s Graham and Watson, a #3 and a #4.
RB. Went from Antowain Smith to Corey Dillon and Lawrence Maroney. Kept Faulk around for Brady to throw to on 3rd down.

I understand that BB doesnt run a fantasy football team, and that disappoints people who wish we could have LT, Tony Gonzalez, Chad Johnson, Randy Moss and Terrell Owens. Its easier to like your team if you dont have to know anything about football and can rely on guys the media say are talented (then watch them not be a good football team) but anyone who thinks BB has not devoted a boatload of resources to surrounding Brady with talent either isnt paying attention or doesnt understand what they are paying attention to.