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Old 08-12-2006, 12:51 PM   #1
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Can someone explain something to me that I am obviously missing? I watched last night's game and the whole time I was wondering what anyone sees in this kid? He makes awful reads, holds onto the ball too long, and doesn't have a big arm. I dont' expect him to be the "next" great QB, but I've yet to see this kid do anything positive whatsoever. A little help here...
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Can someone explain something to me that I am obviously missing? I watched last night's game and the whole time I was wondering what anyone sees in this kid? He makes awful reads, holds onto the ball too long, and doesn't have a big arm. I dont' expect him to be the "next" great QB, but I've yet to see this kid do anything positive whatsoever. A little help here...

You got me... I have no idea why they didn't bring another veteran QB into camp either - now if they do everyone's going to say its because Cassel is bombing.
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He's not as bad as you think. After starting out shaky he recovered his composure and was able to move the team up and down the field. That is more than you can say for a lot of back-ups in the league. Did you hear the announcers comment more than once that this was an unusual pre-season game as both teams put up a lot of offense (check out how the Jets and Browns did their first pre-season game). He does hold the ball too long, but isn't that a problem with lots of inexperienced QBs? Don't you think he's better than Rohan Davey?
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Old 08-12-2006, 12:59 PM   #4
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He's not as bad as you think. After starting out shaky he recovered his composure and was able to move the team up and down the field. That is more than you can say for a lot of back-ups in the league. Did you hear the announcers comment more than once that this was an unusual pre-season game as both teams put up a lot of offense (check out how the Jets and Browns did their first pre-season game). He does hold the ball too long, but isn't that a problem with lots of inexperienced QBs? Don't you think he's better than Rohan Davey?
I look at a guy like Matt Schaub and see him as someone who is a perfect backup QB. Davey was awful, but I'd hate to think the best option for the Patriots besides Cassell is Davey. Hopefully other NFL GM's see something in this kid and the Pats can dump him for a draft pick next year.
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a little too harsh too soon. I'll give him two games to shake off the yips before deciding he's a KP [Kant Play]
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I look at a guy like Matt Schaub and see him as someone who is a perfect backup QB. Davey was awful, but I'd hate to think the best option for the Patriots besides Cassell is Davey. Hopefully other NFL GM's see something in this kid and the Pats can dump him for a draft pick next year.
I agree Shaub is good, but he's more experienced. I just go back to that Miami game at the end of last year where Cassell played very well against a defense that always gives us fits. I'm not ready to give up on him. Who else would you bring in? There is a dearth out there of good starting QBs, never mind back ups. The only one I thought might be good was Jay Fiedler, but he went off the market pretty quick.
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I agree Shaub is good, but he's more experienced. I just go back to that Miami game at the end of last year where Cassell played very well against a defense that always gives us fits. I'm not ready to give up on him. Who else would you bring in? There is a dearth out there of good starting QBs, never mind back ups. The only one I thought might be good was Jay Fiedler, but he went off the market pretty quick.
I"d be happier if we had a veteran backup than this guy. Miami has a guy in Joey Harrington (who admittedly is a bust), but at least he's got some starting experience with a horrific Lions club. Cassel hasn't even started a guy in college...
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Cassel started the game in the worst possible way then he re-covered

personally i prefere wait the end of pre-season before judge him
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Cassel started the game in the worst possible way then he re-covered

personally i prefere wait the end of pre-season before judge him
This team has bigger problems than Cassell, but trading him next winter would be fine by me.
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Can someone explain something to me that I am obviously missing? I watched last night's game and the whole time I was wondering what anyone sees in this kid? He makes awful reads, holds onto the ball too long, and doesn't have a big arm. I dont' expect him to be the "next" great QB, but I've yet to see this kid do anything positive whatsoever. A little help here...
I disagree completely !! This kid has thrown the ball 20+ only twice in a game as a pro, and last night was the second time. After a slow start, I thought he played very well. He was something like 3-10 (.300 pct), and then went 10-16 (.625 pct), with one of those incompleteions a drop. I too was disappointed in his play early, but then he really started to come on. I disagree that he doesn't have a big arm, he showed a very strong arm on some of his passes, including one pass where Dick Enberg commented how one of his passes went 60+ yards in the air, and though off target, it wasn't short, he overthrew it.

He definately has the talent, and actually has some escapability, and made a nice 15 yard run. I think the only thing this kid lacks is experience. He will learn to feel the pass rush, he will get better at his consistency, and his reads will be better, but this all comes with experience. I've seen more from Cassel in his 2 games than I did from Davey and any other Pats backup in the last few years. Let's not forget, he barely lost the starting QB competition to Matt Linehart at USC (and backed up Carson Palmer), he obviously has some talent.

I strongly disagree with your comments, I saw a lot to be excited about. Hell, as a rookie QB, he outperformed a lot of highly drafted QB's, including the #1 overall pick, Alex Smith (who had a nice game last night BTW). Not bad for an unknown 7th rounder.

I really would feel more comfortable having a veteran in here as the #3 QB, sort of like when a young Tom Brady had Damon Huard as a backup in 2001.
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