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"Hey," Vinatieri said to me when we met. "What are you doing picking the Super Bowl you did?"

Now that's news. A player actually knows that I picked Dallas to beat New England.

"What can I say?" I said to Vinatieri. "I've got to go for the happy ending with Parcells riding off into the sunset after the Super Bowl."

"Well," Vinatieri said. "Keep us in mind. We're pretty good."

PlattsFan

Poor Adam. Used to a QB that plays even bigger in big games than he does in training camp.

He'll learn. Yes, he'll learn.

Jacky Roberts

Screw Vinatieri. That will be one ACL injury I won't mind seeing. Just kidding...Maybe

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BelichickFan

I guess Vinatraitor hasn't watched "his team" in the playoffs the past few years. Funny, he's had a really good view of a couple of the games.

PlattsFan

Oh, god, but Peter King is an idiot when it comes to analysis. He's a decent writer, but he's just a dope when it comes to analysis. Check out what he says:

This is so obviously stupid, I'm not sure I really want to go through the bother of saying why, but ...

Look at what happened to the Patriots after Martin or the Falcons after Anderson. They didn't find runners nearly as good. It just doesn't follow that because some RBs are had late, you can find RBs anywhere. Tom Brady was a 6th round pick ... what does that prove about QBs?

Besides, by that logic (good runners can be had late), kickers are even less valuable. Almost all of them are undrafted. And talk about getting 90 percent of a mega-star's production ... kickers are far more fungible than top running backs.

And Mike Vangerjagt may have been a choker, but otherwise he was an excellent kicker. It's not like it'll be a huge improvement. Maybe one kick a year would be different. Maybe, if it even comes to that in the playoffs. And kickoffs will probably suffer.

Damn, the amount of ink spilled about Adam ...

He's. Just. A. Kicker.

BelichickFan

I was about to comment on this too. I really like King. But this is bizarre,. Like you said, Vanderjagt was a very good kicker, as good as Vinatraitor in the regular season. And despite the Colts-Steelers debacle last year, hardly any of their playoff losses have come down to a FG. Nutty comment by King

dryheat44

Yup. If you're not in position to make clutch kicks, you won't make clutch kicks. John Carney or Neil Rackers may be the greatest clutch kickers in the history of mankind. But we'd never know.

Clutch kicking is much more a function of the offense. There's a line of thought out there that says without Vinny, Brady would just be considered another good quarterback....that Vinny made the Brady "legend".

I typically counter that Brady made the Vinatieri "legend". What's more impressive -- driving a team into field goal range with 80 seconds left in the Super Bowl, or kicking a long field goal to win it?

There may be 20 other kickers in the league who could have made that kick given the opportunity. There may be five QBs who could have given him the chance to do so.

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Yankees/Colts

Uh no. Vanderjagt lost the Miami playoff game also. Manning drove the Colts down the field to win it and Vandershank missed it. He also missed the one against the Pats as well which would have given the Colts home field advantage. He missed as many big kicks as Vinatieri made.

Another one he missed was the one which would have ended the greatest comeback in history - down by 21, less than 4 minutes to go in Tampa - but he got another chance.

FreeTedWilliams

Did you see both Ackers kick that 55 yarder last night? And it had plenty more left. Adam was clutch, however, he isn't close to being the best kicker in the league (I think it's Ackers), and he simply doesn't have the leg strenth anymore for the 50+ yrd field goals. Not to mention his very short KOs.
HEll even the drunk kicked one from over 50 last night.

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AzPatsFan

[QUOTE=...

He's. Just. A. Kicker.[/QUOTE]

That is not quite true...

He's. Just. An. AGING. Kicker.

(That's already lost lots of range in Kickoffs, (2003+), and deep (+50yds - 2002+), and medium range (mid forties - 2005+) FGs.