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I hope we pick up some late cuts, but it's probable we go with selections from the current pool of players.
In BB we trust is the default BUT personnel wise are we improved at:
QB Brady always improves but can't get much better. Cassel should improve with practice since he hardly played in college. Not a big fan of the Flutie acquisition but lack of an experienced backup is a dropoff.
[Not improved]
RB Corey's back with a vengeance. Even if Maroney doesn't play much this year, we made the future move.
Improved
WR Lost Givens, gained Caldwell, Branch unhappy. This should have been foreseen. More and better tryouts should be in camp considering the spots we need to fill. What about injuries?, (we have a ton at WR every year). Actually, with Jackson this could be a wash, but a vet is money in the bank so.
[Not improved]
TE New guy in. Mills isn't really a TE, but should add to the mix.
Starters have been inconsistent and Thomas is probably better than Fauria who stunk the last couple. It's a mish mosh but on the whole...
Improved
Oline Injuries happen, but so does healing. They've been restocking and signing and they should really benefit.
Improved
DLine Like wine a great young unit improves. They should be gellin' like Magellan this season. Grreat competition between Holmes? Le Kevin, The Whopper, Wright, even Klecko.
Improved
LB I've made enough posts on this to fill a notebook. If you disagree, I'd say the burden of proof is on you.
[Not Improved]
DBs tough to call. Compared to what is the question. If we lose 6 to Ir, will we be better? I'll say getting Tebuckey reasonably tips the balance. A lot of athleticism an experience to draw on and an extra year of experience for Artrell. Safety prospects much better, CBs probably not as good as pre-injury prospects in 2005. Overall:
Improved
STs I can't really tell til I see results. Izzo a year older, Mitchell out Tebuckey in. They say Mills, but I really prefer defensive guys on special teams. We'll see.
Bethel was off his game and Dwight was decent. If this Willie guy is a go getter he's got a great opportunity. you can always use an extra defensive back. I can't tell, but because they emphasize it I was leaning, but losing Adam tilts the balance. But you have to replace players so not to worry about this one. Transition
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I agree with everything except WR. I actually think we are improved once d!ckface Branch shows up. I realize you acknowledged this and went with the vet, but I really like Caldwell and Jackson over Givens and Davis. Of course, WR being improved sounds silly until our #1 guy chooses to show up for work.
I agree with everything except WR. I actually think we are improved once d!ckface Branch shows up. I realize you acknowledged this and went with the vet, but I really like Caldwell and Jackson over Givens and Davis. Of course, WR being improved sounds silly until our #1 guy chooses to show up for work.
Glad you replied. Was going to elaborate on that once I remembered our backups.
Dwight was a pretty nifty 4-5 and Bethel and Davis had long ball potential, though it was becoming obvious Johnson didn't get it.
Also, we were lucky with injuries where these vets would have really stood out.
However, if dickface, (you can't say that?), returns and is signed and happy and Jackson is as good as we hope, I'd be happy with a couple cheap ambitious youngsters at 4-5.
If Caldwell has a good attitude he replaces Givens period. We've got to get over overrating our players just because other teams do. We should just bottle the magic super bowl dust and sell it to them.
But that's a lot of ifs.
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I hope we pick up some late cuts, but it's probable we go with selections from the current pool of players.
I expect one or two cuts for the Practice Squad, we need another LT candidate badly and SP may find some LB and WR candidates to test out.
In BB we trust is the default BUT personnel wise are we improved at:
QB Brady always improves but can't get much better. Cassel should improve with practice since he hardly played in college. Not a big fan of the Flutie acquisition but lack of an experienced backup is a dropoff.
[Not improved]
RB Corey's back with a vengeance. Even if Maroney doesn't play much this year, we made the future move.
Improved
WR Lost Givens, gained Caldwell, Branch unhappy. This should have been foreseen. More and better tryouts should be in camp considering the spots we need to fill. What about injuries?, (we have a ton at WR every year). Actually, with Jackson this could be a wash, but a vet is money in the bank so.
[Not improved]
TE New guy in. Mills isn't really a TE, but should add to the mix.
Starters have been inconsistent and Thomas is probably better than Fauria who stunk the last couple. It's a mish mosh but on the whole...
Improved
Oline Injuries happen, but so does healing. They've been restocking and signing and they should really benefit.
Improved That remains to be seen, until Kaczur and Koppen start practicing again we're questionable for depth, especially at LT.
DLine Like wine a great young unit improves. They should be gellin' like Magellan this season. Grreat competition between Holmes? Le Kevin, The Whopper, Wright, even Klecko.
Improved Holmes???? Poor Thomas.
LB I've made enough posts on this to fill a notebook. If you disagree, I'd say the burden of proof is on you.
[Not Improved]
DBs tough to call. Compared to what is the question. If we lose 6 to Ir, will we be better? I'll say getting Tebuckey reasonably tips the balance. A lot of athleticism an experience to draw on and an extra year of experience for Artrell. Safety prospects much better, CBs probably not as good as pre-injury prospects in 2005. Overall:
Improved
STs I can't really tell til I see results. Izzo a year older, Mitchell out Tebuckey in. They say Mills, but I really prefer defensive guys on special teams. We'll see.
Bethel was off his game and Dwight was decent. If this Willie guy is a go getter he's got a great opportunity. you can always use an extra defensive back. I can't tell, but because they emphasize it I was leaning, but losing Adam tilts the balance. But you have to replace players so not to worry about this one. Transition
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I hope we pick up some late cuts, but it's probable we go with selections from the current pool of players.
In BB we trust is the default BUT personnel wise are we improved at:
QB Brady always improves but can't get much better. Cassel should improve with practice since he hardly played in college. Not a big fan of the Flutie acquisition but lack of an experienced backup is a dropoff.
[Not improved]
RB Corey's back with a vengeance. Even if Maroney doesn't play much this year, we made the future move.
Improved
WR Lost Givens, gained Caldwell, Branch unhappy. This should have been foreseen. More and better tryouts should be in camp considering the spots we need to fill. What about injuries?, (we have a ton at WR every year). Actually, with Jackson this could be a wash, but a vet is money in the bank so.
[Not improved]
TE New guy in. Mills isn't really a TE, but should add to the mix.
Starters have been inconsistent and Thomas is probably better than Fauria who stunk the last couple. It's a mish mosh but on the whole...
Improved
Oline Injuries happen, but so does healing. They've been restocking and signing and they should really benefit.
Improved
DLine Like wine a great young unit improves. They should be gellin' like Magellan this season. Grreat competition between Holmes? Le Kevin, The Whopper, Wright, even Klecko.
Improved
LB I've made enough posts on this to fill a notebook. If you disagree, I'd say the burden of proof is on you.
[Not Improved]
DBs tough to call. Compared to what is the question. If we lose 6 to Ir, will we be better? I'll say getting Tebuckey reasonably tips the balance. A lot of athleticism an experience to draw on and an extra year of experience for Artrell. Safety prospects much better, CBs probably not as good as pre-injury prospects in 2005. Overall:
Improved
STs I can't really tell til I see results. Izzo a year older, Mitchell out Tebuckey in. They say Mills, but I really prefer defensive guys on special teams. We'll see.
Bethel was off his game and Dwight was decent. If this Willie guy is a go getter he's got a great opportunity. you can always use an extra defensive back. I can't tell, but because they emphasize it I was leaning, but losing Adam tilts the balance. But you have to replace players so not to worry about this one. Transition
Mankins played left tackle his whole college career. I think Britt and O'Callaghan could be used there, (we're talking backups now). I'm no OLine expert, but I believe we have more depth there now than we did before.
And And Kaszur
Left tackle will not be a dominant position for us, but I think we have
More talented players that can fill in.
We're comparing our depth to Ashworth and Gorin, remember.
"Holmes???? Poor Thomas." LOL. I don't know that many guys named Santonio.
When you're making a big post like that, the 3rd or 4th string NT just ain't worth a google.
Sorry Santonio. Keep plugging, (pun intended ).
P.S. I think Ross Tucker is greatly underappreciated as a backup or spot starter at c/g.
Mankins played left tackle his whole college career. I think Britt and O'Callaghan could be used there, (we're talking backups now). I'm no OLine expert, but I believe we have more depth there now than we did before.
And And Kaszur
Left tackle will not be a dominant position for us, but I think we have
More talented players that can fill in.
We're comparing our depth to Ashworth and Gorin, remember.
"Holmes???? Poor Thomas." LOL. I don't know that many guys named Santonio.
When you're making a big post like that, the 3rd or 4th string NT just ain't worth a google.
Sorry Santonio. Keep plugging, (pun intended ).
P.S. I think Ross Tucker is greatly underappreciated as a backup or spot starter at c/g.
I am comparing our depth to Ashworth and Gorin - Ashworth was a very good swing tackle, I had no qualms when he played LT and he was a better pass blocker then Gorin. For all Gorin's faults, he is a decent RT, better run blocker then pass blocker, but he has gotten the job done for us. I have grave doubts about Gorin at LT, and the fact he is taking reps there instead of Britt, suggests Britt isn't ready for LT - remember Kaczur took reps at both in TC.
Without Kaczur, Mankins is our best reserve LT. I'm surmising Kaczur will be back soon since BB hasn't (reportedly) given Mankins any reps at LT but, until Kac is bac , Gorin as the number 1 LT reserve scares me, I'd be comfortable with Ashworth in that role. That's where I get unimproved on the O-line (LT).
Looks like we need another PATSNUTme intervention post for fans who don't have the Patriots.com roster open in another window as they type.
I expect Tucker to push Mruczkowski hard for the starting roster, if Koppen doesn't go to PUP to start the season, I expect one of those two to backstop Hochstein.
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Glad you replied. Was going to elaborate on that once I remembered our backups.
Dwight was a pretty nifty 4-5 and Bethel and Davis had long ball potential, though it was becoming obvious Johnson didn't get it.
Also, we were lucky with injuries where these vets would have really stood out.
However, if dickface, (you can't say that?), returns and is signed and happy and Jackson is as good as we hope, I'd be happy with a couple cheap ambitious youngsters at 4-5.
If Caldwell has a good attitude he replaces Givens period. We've got to get over overrating our players just because other teams do. We should just bottle the magic super bowl dust and sell it to them.
But that's a lot of ifs.
If memory serves, Givens got 59 catches, Dwight I think had like 19, and Andre Davis had 9 and Bethel had 4. That's 91 catches. Anyhow, I think Bam Bam with a good attitude is gotta be better than Bethel. Caldwell as the vet seems to have a good attitude and doing good in camp, and we got Jackson. Considering the fact that only 15% of Brady's completed passess were to TE last year (compare to 2003 when it was 21%), with more throws going to TE anyways, in theory it should be a wash. It seems hard not to see Jackson and Caldwell combining to beat Givens #. Bam Childress had 3 catches the last game of the season. With inevitable injuries, if Bam can do what Dwight did last year year (around 20 catches -- we should be fine).
I see the WR position as reasonably decent as it was last year.
I think Branch will come back week one. We got the salary cap room, and so I think BB and Branch will come to terms and get it done right before week one.
Improved or not?
), returns and is signed and happy and Jackson is as good as we hope, I'd be happy with a couple cheap ambitious youngsters at 4-5.
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