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QB(3) Brady, Cassel,Bramlett, Mortensen
It will be interesting to see whether the braintrust brings a veteran into camp to compete with Bramlett and Mortensen. Accounts of the recent mini-camp were that Brady and Cassel stood head and shoulders ahead of either of the younger QBs. Going into camp without the QBs currently on the roster is a real vote of confidence in Cassel, and leaves the only drama in the competition between Bramlett and Mortensen for garbage duty.
RB(5) Dillon, Moroney, Faulk, Mills, Pass, Evans
I think the competition at training camp will not include Dillon or Moroney... they will both make the roster regardless of how camp shapes up. The most interesting competition will be between Pass and Evans, for the right to play veteran FB. I count Mills as a lock for the roster based on his draft status, long term potential and the fact that rookie contracts are an utter bargain for the team. I can imagine Evans winning the spot over Pass, although Pass is clearly the incumbant. The competition is likely to come down to roster versatility and usefulness on Special Teams, where Pass probably has the edge.
WR(5) Branch, Caldwell, Jackson, Brown, Childress, Z.Smith, Stone
The first four receivers are all locks, but the competition for the #5 spot is wide open. I have Childress as the favorite for the 5th spot, based on the fact that he has a year in the system, is a hard worker and had a good game against the Fins in 2005. The wildcard in the equation is whether any of the WR camp fodder are able to make a case for themselves based on skill in the kicking game. If someone like Zuriel Smith lock down the PR job, or flash something special in KR, then they could easily win the last spot. In the past, we've carried 6 receivers, but with our depth at TE and our lack of deep skill at WR, it looks unlikely in 2006.
TE(3) Graham, Watson, Thomas
No news here. There can hardly be anything more certain on the 53-man than this threesome. Whatever we think of our WR corp, the depth and athleticism of our TEs makes up for it. And if we flex Mills into TE based on need... well, that's just even better
OT(4) Light, Kaczur, Gorin, O'Callaghan, Britt, Roehl, Hand
The competition is for the 4th tackle position. I'm giving the nod to the oversized rookie, Ryan O'Callaghan, based solely on his size 6-7 330-- easily the biggest lineman on the roster. But, there are a number of prospects for the position who could easily claim it for themselves.
OG(3) Mankins, Neal, Stevenson, Yates, Tucker, Steitz
The 3rd guard, in practice, is probably Hochstein, who can play any of the five OL positions in a pinch. But, he's our primary at OC, so I wont double count him. In rookie camp, the braintrust was playing Stevenson at OC, so they may have something very similar in mind for him. The rest of the OGs on the roster actually seem to have some good upside. It'll be interesting to see how this evolves, but we probably have to give the rookie from ND the inside track.
OC(2) Koppen, Hochstein, Barthelmes
I think any drama at the OC position will be purely a question of whether Koppen returns for his contract year in good health. If he doesn't, I expect Hochstein to start, and Stevenson to be groomed as the #2, making roster room for someone like Yates or Tucker. But, if Dan is healthy and productive, there's not much to talk about here.
NT(2) Wilfork,Sullivan, Smith, Wright, Thomas
This will be one of the most interesting camp competitions, in my book. Sullivan is a former top-10 draft pick, but doesn't realize how tough he has it in saving his career from the brink of disaster. Smith sounds like a solid prospect, and Wright was the success story of TC last year. Getting busted with pot in his car is not a promising start-- he'll need to come into camp in shape and dedicated to proving he's not a bust, or he'll be flipping burgers for the next twenty years. He didn't even finish his degree at Georgia-- he came out early-- so he doesn't have much to fall back on, beyond his signing bonus.
DE(4) Seymour, Warren, Green, Hill, Drame
Dont see much competition here. The only question is whether Hill will ever break into the rotation on the regular D, or whether he's going to be a career inactive player. Kader Drame doesn't seem like serious competition.
OLB(4) Vrabel, Colvin, Banta-Cain, Mincey, Claridge
ILB(4) Bruschi, Beisel, Izzo, Davis, Gardner, Alexander, Roach, Mays, Woods
Competition at LB will be wide open. The core five, consisting of Vrabel, Colvin, Bruschi, Beisel and Izzo, are locks. The question of the next three or four or five roster spots comes down to special teams play, and the ability to pinch-hit in crisis situations in the regular D. If any of the remaining players shows any upside to become anything more than a solid ST player, they have a distinct advantage. That's why I've listed Banta-Cain and Mincey as my favorites to make the roster at OLB. Davis and Gardner are both ST mavens, who can contribute in the regular D in an emergency. In this 53-man, Gardner's real competition is players like Mel Mitchell and Tebucky Jones, who are going to fill out the ST roster. That leaves Claridge, Alexander and the UDFA rookies on the outside looking in. Claridge is a tough call for me, because he's a recent draft pick and should fit well on the team. But I'm concerned that if he doesn't show up in camp this year, the team may be prepared to give up on him altogether. Any of the youngsters who flashes the best upside and a good mind for the design of the D should make the team. But I think a lot of these guys are heading for the practice squad.
CB(5) Hobbs, Samuel, Gay, Scott, Andrews, Warfield, Poteat, V.Brown, Spann
Hobbs and Samuel are the two locks, and competition for the next two or three CB positions is pretty wide open. Also in the competition at CB will be Eugene Wilson and Artrell Hawkins (given the great depth of talent at S, and their positional flexibility). Geno and Hawkins would both be very physical and strong CBs, which could be useful against "finesse" teams where some smashmouth, hard hitting is called for to set the tone. My choices of Gay and Scott over Warfield is based mostly on my lack of excitement over Warfield's abilities. KC was never any good on D with him starting for them. There is nothing in his history, demenor or performance at the mini-camp to make me very optimistic. Gay has been a nice surprise for us since his rookie year, and Scott drew some uncharacteristicly generous compliments from Belichick after last year's TC. Poteat is likely to go right back onto the Shadow Roster.
I've kept Andrews purely as a KR. The fact that he's listed as a CB is a thin veil. Andrews's top competition for KR duty may be Vernell Brown, who was a sparkplug and captain for Urban Meyer, Belichick's new football buddy from UFlorida.
S(6) Harrison, Wilson, Jones, Hawkins, Sanders, Mitchell, Scott, Ventrone, Herring
I've decided to keep six safeties, with the expectation that the ST unit is going to be staffed from these players. It hurts me to lock Guss Scott off the roster, knowing that he could be a serious threat as a gunner. But after two injury filled seasons, he's got to prove something in camp to make the cut, especially with the quality depth in front of him.
Really, there's quality competition at just about every position. The only exception is TE, where we seem to be locked and loaded with incredible talent. Interestingly, there is very little competition for starting positions. Most of the competition is 3 and 4 positions deep, and in the ST units.
P(1) Miller
Lock
K(1) Gostkowski, Gramatica
This looks like competition, but I think it's a pretty shallow ploy. The rookie gets the nod, and Gramatica is just on board to help provide a little bit of a veteran role model while the kid is finding himself in the NFL.'
LS(1) Paxton, Condo
Paxton actually has competition this year. I think Mills and/or Thomas also have LS experience from college, so it's no sure thing that the snow angel keeps his wings. Still, unless it's broke, why fix it?
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I also don't see any mention of Klecko or Gemera Williams (not like the latter matters!). You can also add Musinski, McGrew, Shelton, and Davis to the end of that WR list. Since a few more cuts (4) have to be made to accommodate rookies, I expect some of those could be shown the door.
I'd probably also flip-flop Chad Scott and Warfield. Scott doesn't have the best history in the Steel-city, either (my sources say he was a frequent burn victim). We didn't get to see too much of him last year, but Warfield did appear to get the playing time edge in minicamp.
OT(4) Light, Kaczur, Gorin, O'Callaghan, Britt, Roehl, Hand
The competition is for the 4th tackle position. I'm giving the nod to the oversized rookie, Ryan O'Callaghan, based solely on his size 6-7 330-- easily the biggest lineman on the roster. But, there are a number of prospects for the position who could easily claim it for themselves.
Just want to add that Big Britt is 6-8 and was 320 last year, before a year at the hands of Mike Woicik and crew (so who knows what he's at now), in addition he's got a year of Dante's O-Line School under his belt already.
While superficially reasonable ... and even insightful ... this analysis must be deeply flawed.
It agrees in altogether too many particulars with my own current mock roster.
It may help to focus on the few positives.
For example, i am confident that the final OT spot goes to Britt (or Gorin) ...
while Mr. O'Callaghan's highest and best use is
on IR for a year - learning NFL
conditioning, strength, and technique.
Rook thinking otherwise is to his advantage.
Pats1 and i each rank Mruc above the unknown Stevenson ... and i imagine Mruc or Tucker
claiming that job ahead of Stevenson. These forecasts combine to bode well for Stevenson.
I would say that Sullivan already has squandered most of whatever shot he had, while Wright
- who was the choice last season - is reported to only have improved himself.
Several years ago one of my roles here was to insist that Larry Izzo was a legitimate
backup ILB. If that was ever true ... it isn't now. ST or bust. And i suppose that his deficiencies
last year catch up with our Pro Bowl ST captain this season.
Give Don Davis ... cover ILB, emergency S, cover guy, and de facto asst. strength coach ... the final spot on the roster.
Other than those few peccadillos, i can't see why anyone would take this work seriously
since i wish i had written the rest of it!
Great Post, I I agree with most of it. Klecko most likely but could have been listed with the LB's. I think I would keep 1 more LB (Claridge) and 1 less Safety.
Thanks for helping us get ready for camp!
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I echo the "great post" posts, but wanted to point out that Mike Wright is really more of an End, not a NT, despite having seen time there last year. Obviously he has some positional flexibility, which is good, but like I said, my understanding is that he'll be competing, mainly, for a DE spot.
WR(5) Branch, Caldwell, Jackson, Brown, Childress, Z.Smith, Stone
Z missed the end of NFLE with a knee injury, and while he did a decent job on PRs, it was hard to be overly encouraged by the rest of his game. Pats1 has already noted there are a few others hanging around for their shot.
OT(4) Light, Kaczur, Gorin, O'Callaghan, Britt, Roehl, Hand
I'll go along with the thought that Britt is a big enough lad and O'Callaghan needs some time with the trainers to develop his foot speed. When was Doherty cut?
OG(3) Mankins, Neal, Stevenson, Yates, Tucker, Steitz
Tucker, Mruczkowski, and Yates are well ahead of Stevenson...throw in Roehl and Hochstein (which you kind of did), and maybe your boy O'Callaghan or Hand.
What is the Stevenson fetish? You discuss him at OC too?
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QB(3) Brady, Cassel,Bramlett, Mortensen
It will be interesting to see whether the braintrust brings a veteran into camp to compete with Bramlett and Mortensen.
I think it's a little late for additional camp competition at that position. And it's tough to keep 5 QB's occupied. What will be interesting to see is if they end up picking up a roster cut at the 11th hour to run the scout team or if they decide to go with just 2 QB's on the roster and let Cassel split scout duties with one of Bramlet or Mortenson operating off the PS.
RB(5) Dillon, Moroney, Faulk, Mills, Pass, Evans
I think the competition at training camp will not include Dillon or Moroney... they will both make the roster regardless of how camp shapes up. The most interesting competition will be between Pass and Evans, for the right to play veteran FB. I count Mills as a lock for the roster based on his draft status, long term potential and the fact that rookie contracts are an utter bargain for the team.
We went to battle with 4 RB (mistake in hindsight) last year, but I think we do the same this year because Maroney is such an upgrade as the Dillon backup. I think Pass is history with Maroney as Dillon's backup if Mills can handle the FB position (we will only carry 1 of those) and Evans goes to the shadow roster with Poteat.
WR(5) Branch, Caldwell, Jackson, Brown, Childress, Z.Smith, Stone
The first four receivers are all locks, but the competition for the #5 spot is wide open. In the past, we've carried 6 receivers, but with our depth at TE and our lack of deep skill at WR, it looks unlikely in 2006.
I agree, but it's not nuclear physics. We are thin. And late roster cuts elsewhere (Patten or others) could knock Bam onto the PS.
TE(3) Graham, Watson, Thomas
No news here. There can hardly be anything more certain on the 53-man than this threesome. Whatever we think of our WR corp, the depth and athleticism of our TEs makes up for it. And if we flex Mills into TE based on need... well, that's just even better
If Graham is/can stay healthy and Watson has put it all together, I agree. If we're flexing Mills it's because of injury and that's not my idea of better.
OT(4) Light, Kaczur, Gorin, O'Callaghan, Britt, Roehl, Hand
The competition is for the 4th tackle position. I'm giving the nod to the oversized rookie, Ryan O'Callaghan, based solely on his size 6-7 330
OG(3) Mankins, Neal, Stevenson, Yates, Tucker, Steitz
The 3rd guard, in practice, is probably Hochstein, who can play any of the five OL positions in a pinch. But, he's our primary at OC, so I wont double count him.
OC(2) Koppen, Hochstein, Barthelmes
I think any drama at the OC position will be purely a question of whether Koppen returns for his contract year in good health. If he doesn't, I expect Hochstein to start, and Stevenson to be groomed as the #2, making roster room for someone like Yates or Tucker. But, if Dan is healthy and productive, there's not much to talk about here.
That's pretty much the deal with the OL in general. Just a question of whether a couple of rookies push some developmental jags off the roster or if those guys have developed and push the rookies onto the PS. The only real ? is will Koppen be good to go.
NT(2) Wilfork,Sullivan, Smith, Wright, Thomas
This will be one of the most interesting camp competitions, in my book.
Will Sullivan salvage the Bethel pick - I have a feeling we will know early on. If he struggles with conditioning here given his arrest, he's history.
DE(4) Seymour, Warren, Green, Hill, Drame
Dont see much competition here. The only question is whether Hill will ever break into the rotation on the regular D, or whether he's going to be a career inactive player.
OLB(4) Vrabel, Colvin, Banta-Cain, Mincey, Claridge
ILB(4) Bruschi, Beisel, Izzo, Davis, Gardner, Alexander, Roach, Mays, Woods
Competition at LB will be wide open. The core five, consisting of Vrabel, Colvin, Bruschi, Beisel and Izzo, are locks. The question of the next three or four or five roster spots comes down to special teams play, and the ability to pinch-hit in crisis situations in the regular D. If any of the remaining players shows any upside to become anything more than a solid ST player, they have a distinct advantage. That's why I've listed Banta-Cain and Mincey as my favorites to make the roster at OLB.
Competition for backups only. Claridge is the great unknown. TBC on the other hand has been fairly called out by hs peers. Sink or swim time for him I surmise as he seemed to take a step back last season. Kids can also develop on the PS but BB trusts his vets.
CB(5) Hobbs, Samuel, Gay, Scott, Andrews, Warfield, Poteat, V.Brown, Spann
Hobbs and Samuel are the two locks, and competition for the next two or three CB positions is pretty wide open. Also in the competition at CB will be Eugene Wilson and Artrell Hawkins My choices of Gay and Scott over Warfield is based mostly on my lack of excitement over Warfield's abilities. Gay has been a nice surprise for us since his rookie year...
Law will be the wildcard. If they sign him Hobbs likely holds the rcb spot and Samuel slips to nickle. Then the competition is for dime and depth. I don't see Geno as anything but a FS - he struggled enough handling that position last season, and Hawkins is the starting SS until Rodney gets back, and his primary backup in case he has to rotate even then. The only thing Gay has been since his rookie year is MIA. So I wouldn't kick Warfield to the curb just yet. Remember BB took pains to point out he was a starter in KC.
I've kept Andrews purely as a KR. The fact that he's listed as a CB is a thin veil. Andrews's top competition for KR duty may be Vernell Brown, who was a sparkplug and captain for Urban Meyer, Belichick's new football buddy from UFlorida.
S(6) Harrison, Wilson, Jones, Hawkins, Sanders, Mitchell, Scott, Ventrone, Herring
I've decided to keep six safeties, with the expectation that the ST unit is going to be staffed from these players.
I think Hawkins is a lock as Rodney's backup. Jones and Mitchell are locks as depth via their ST value. Sanders should make it as the developmental safety. Scott and Ventrone have a shot only if Rodney starts the season on PUP and/or someone else is injured in camp.
Really, there's quality competition at just about every position.
There is depth everywhere except WR. Not a ton of competition though except for depth elsewhere.
P(1) Miller
Lock
K(1) Gostkowski, Gramatica
This looks like competition, but I think it's a pretty shallow ploy. The rookie gets the nod, and Gramatica is just on board to help provide a little bit of a veteran role model while the kid is finding himself in the NFL.'
Gramatica as a veteran role model is a stretch given how his former teamates reportedly felt about him. I think he was signed as the aftershock fallback in case they couldn't draft the PK they ultimately decided was their best bet, or they did and he struggled early on. They could carry 2 early if Rodney is in fact on PUP. We may not have a real read on either until the pre season wraps up. And even then the bad/cold weather factor will loom in December and January. We won't likely be able to fully evaluate the new PK until this season is in the books.
LS(1) Paxton, Condo
Paxton actually has competition this year. I think Mills and/or Thomas also have LS experience from college, so it's no sure thing that the snow angel keeps his wings. Still, unless it's broke, why fix it?
The snow angel is a lock. One or both of Mills or Thomas may earn the designation as emergency LS with the goal of never seeing them lined up in that awkward position. Or flumoxing a rookies kicks.