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Old 06-11-2010, 10:22 PM   #1
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Steve Grogan had more wins and a better record as starting QB for the Pats than Drew Bledsoe
Grogan 75-60
Bledsoe 63-60

Also after leaving NE Bledsoe was 35-35 the rest of his career.

Tom Brady is 97-30. 4 more games than Bledsoe and 34 more wins, wow.

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the injury filled and bad drafting pete carroll, era did not help bledsoe, and brady is just a freak

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I'll always credit Bledsoe, Coates, Jefferson, and the like for being the reasons why I root for the Pats. They might not have been the best team, but I'll always look back on them with a certain fondness.
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Joe Montana
in SF 100-39. That means if Brady goes 3-9 he matches Montanas SF w/l. Overall he was 117-47

Playoffs
Montana 14-5SF 16-7total
Brady 14-4


This season Brady if he starts 12 games will match Montana's longevity in SF.
Here is the stat difference
Montana 12 more games
382 more attempts
257 more completions (JM 63.7% comp TB 63.3)
4280 more yards
19 more TDs
24 more Ints
63 more ties sacked
QB Rating JM 93.5 TB 93.3

The numbers are eerily similar. The difference is basically that Brady wins more than anyone ever and Montana is a not too distant 2nd, they both are virtually equal in %, yards, rating, and Brady throws more TDs and fewer picks. Of course Montana has one more ring, which Brady needs to match.
Montana missed more time to injuries, so actually the extra 12 games were in 2 more seasons, one of which was SB #4.

IMO, these are the 2 best QBs ever, and since we are down to a handful of games separating them (not counting the 2 KC years for Montana) it seems clear that ring 4 puts Brady AHEAD of Montana, but I don't think he moves ahead without ring #4.
It is also interesting to note that Montana has 3 straight first round losses between SB win #3 and #4.
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I'll always credit Bledsoe, Coates, Jefferson, and the like for being the reasons why I root for the Pats. They might not have been the best team, but I'll always look back on them with a certain fondness.
Its weird to say now, but we were so bad for most of the 20 years before Bledsoe (in 25 years before drafting Bledsoe we had 10 winning seasons, 11 doubledigit loss seasons, 3 playoff wins, a combined 57 games under .500) there was no doubt a consolation prize in at least having a QB who could put up some numbers while we sucked, and it made it a fun time to root for the Patriots.
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the injury filled and bad drafting pete carroll, era did not help bledsoe, and brady is just a freak
Actually Bledsoe was 26-20 under Carrol and had an overall losing record of 37-40 under Parcells and Belichick. (Plus 12-10 more under the Tuna in Dallas)
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Manning is 131-61 and of course 9-9 in the playoffs.
Brady at 97-30 could go 35-30 and still have a better record than Manning, and of course he would have to lose his next 10 playoff games to get to a Peytonesque .500 in the postseason. (Yeah more than Manning has won in his entire career)
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Here is another.
Brett Favre has started 158 more regualar season games than Tom Brady (almost 10 full seasons) but has won fewer playoff games. 14 to 13.
Favre has 84 more reg season wins and 74 more losses than TB.
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Most common play I remember from back then was "Bledsoe to Coats".
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