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Lastly, Crable is very tall. With his proportions, he could have 19 inch arms and still look "thin". He'd have to be 275+ to look as jacked as some of the shorter players, the guy is 6'5.
You have no clue how much muscle Crable gained. As I said in another post, if Crable started out at 240lbs @ 12% bodyfat and is now 245lbs @ 6-7% bf, he has gained a considerable amount of muscle. People think gaining sloppy weight is prudent for an athlete. Wrong again! Why would you want to add fat and water? You want to add lean muscle, and unless your a total novice who has never trained before, 20lbs of lean muscle (if you are not a drugs) is a huge amount of lean tissue to add over a couple years (especially if you have injuries that hinder heavy compound movements such as squats and deadlifts; which crable had).
It's pretty safe to say that Crable has spent a lot of time in weight rooms since high school. After the initial "newbie" gains, muscle growth comes at about 2-5lb's of LEAN MASS per year for the typical weightlifter.
20 lbs of muscle in his sleep, lol. Go buy 20 lbs of chicken breasts and stack them on your table. That will give you an idea of how much mass that is.
Lastly, Crable is very tall. With his proportions, he could have 19 inch arms and still look "thin". He'd have to be 275+ to look as jacked as some of the shorter players, the guy is 6'5.
Sorry buddy, but I'm not wrong. Anybody can add lean mass to their frame as long as they train right, eat healthy and take in the required number of calories. Even after your "newbie gains" you can put on as much weight as you want if you know what your doing.
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No, the problem is that Bruschi had a stroke, Colvin never fully recovered from his hip injury and AdT either didn't fit in the system or declined as a player. As I've pointed out before, the Patriots and Steelers have taken a similar approach to the linebacker position in terms of the draft. The major difference between the two groups has been health.
You know players do age, right? Whether they stayed healthy, they still needed replacements.
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As I've pointed out before, the Patriots and Steelers have taken a similar approach to the linebacker position in terms of the draft. The major difference between the two groups has been health.
Sorry buddy, but I'm not wrong. Anybody can add lean mass to their frame as long as they train right, eat healthy and take in the required number of calories. Even after your "newbie gains" you can put on as much weight as you want if you know what your doing.
You know players do age, right? Whether they stayed healthy, they still needed replacements.
Of course anyone can ad lean mass to their frame, but your outrageous claims of how quickly it can be done shows you know little to nothing about weight training, the human body and nutrition. If you knew what 20 lbs’s of lean chicken breast looked like, you’d understand how much mass that really is.
A person who is new to weight training can expect to gain a large amount of lean mass over the first few years. After the initial "shock" to your body, lean mass gains slow down considerably. Furthermore, you can't "add as much mass as you want”, because at a certain point, your muscle mass reaches its natural limit due to your body’s joint circumference, your genetics, strength and so on. Crable is an ectomorph (ie a hardgainer), so adding mass is that much more difficult for him. I’m sure you know what an ectomorph a mesomorph and a endomorph is, and how each body types reacts to weight training, correct?
You’re right about adding as much "weight" as you want, but adding bodyfat is counterproductive. If you’d like to educate yourself, use the internet to learn about muscle hypotrophy caused by weight training, and what kind of gains can be expected from a rigorous weight lifting program, based on heavy compound movements and an anabolic diet. It’d be good for you to learn what’s realistic and what’s not. BB.com is a good place for you to start.
If you think seasoned athletes who have been training for many years can add 20 lbs of lean mass year after year through just proper diet and exercise, I've got some wonderful beach front property in Cleveland I'd love to sell you. If you take the time to learn about building muscle, you'll learn that 2-7 lbs of lean mass is average for the typical bodybuilder (and that's someone who lives sleeps and breaths building muscle). Crable is a football player.
I can't wait, I'll be 300 lbs of rock solid muscle in 5 years if I keep training and eating right! 20lb of lean mass a year, like clockwork!!!
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Of course anyone can ad lean mass to their frame, but your outrageous claims of how quickly it can be done shows you know little to nothing about weight training, the human body and nutrition. If you knew what 20 lbs’s of lean chicken breast looked like, you’d understand how much mass that really is.
A person who is new to weight training can expect to gain a large amount of lean mass over the first few years. After the initial "shock" to your body, lean mass gains slow down considerably. Furthermore, you can't "add as much mass as you want”, because at a certain point, your muscle mass reaches its natural limit due to your body’s joint circumference, your genetics, strength and so on. Crable is an ectomorph (ie a hardgainer), so adding mass is that much more difficult for him. I’m sure you know what an ectomorph a mesomorph and a endomorph is, and how each body types reacts to weight training, correct?
You’re right about adding as much "weight" as you want, but adding bodyfat is counterproductive. If you’d like to educate yourself, use the internet to learn about muscle hypotrophy caused by weight training, and what kind of gains can be expected from a rigorous weight lifting program, based on heavy compound movements and an anabolic diet. It’d be good for you to learn what’s realistic and what’s not. BB.com is a good place for you to start.
If you think seasoned athletes who have been training for many years can add 20 lbs of lean mass year after year through just proper diet and exercise, I've got some wonderful beach front property in Cleveland I'd love to sell you. If you take the time to learn about building muscle, you'll learn that 2-7 lbs of lean mass is average for the typical bodybuilder (and that's someone who lives sleeps and breaths building muscle). Crable is a football player.
I can't wait, I'll be 300 lbs of rock solid muscle in 5 years if I keep training and eating right! 20lb of lean mass a year, like clockwork!!!
What's funny is, you had to write a whole essay to get to the point when you could've summed that up into a paragraph. And bro, you can add 1 pound of lean muscle each week if you eat the right amount of calories and train correctly. BB. com is a good place for you to start.
What Crable did to his body is an illusion as you should know this Mr. Expert Body Builder. When you lose body fat, it makes you look bigger than you really are. The same thing happened to me when I trained a few years ago as I gained little "mass" but lost quite a bit of body fat. At the time, I had no clue what I was doing. My friends kept complimenting me on how "big" I was, however, they didn't believe me when I told them my real weight. And I was an Ectomorph.
Don't know why you're getting so angry over Shawn Crable.
P.S. This thread is pretty ridiculous as were are arguing over Shawn Crable's training regimen.
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You know players do age, right? Whether they stayed healthy, they still needed replacements.
No, actually, they didn't. Well, rather, they wouldn't have had the same level of need. Had the group been healthy, the team would have been drafting their replacements in 2008-2009 and everything would have been fine. Instead, the players couldn't progress through their careers normally, the replacements brought in to bridge the gap (Hobson, Lenon) failed, and the LB corps went to crap. We saw the same thing happen when Bruschi first went down and Johnson retired abruptly.
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The answer to Ray was a one liner, so I got it out of the way first. Nothing insidious, I assure you.
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